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New Ninja 250RR ( 4 cylinder engine) vs CBR 650R

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Looks amazing!! Why isn't any one talking about this bike?? 4cylinder engine, upside down forks, traction control. KQS, ABS, slipper clutch,...basically the works thrown at it

will you get it for 9k ??? very tempting!

How will compare to the Honda 650R, I wonder?
 
I tend to suspect "not available here". It's not on Kawasaki's Canadian website.

It's not the same sort of bike as a CBR650, or even CBR500, which despite the CBR moniker, are mild-mannered comfy-riding-position standard bikes dressed up in sport clothing. This is going to be a proper lightweight high-revving somewhat-committed sport bike that needs to be flogged hard in order to be enjoyed. And I love the idea of it.

There isn't anything like this on the market. Price shoppers need not apply. The Ninja 400 is still a mild-mannered comfy-riding-position standard bike dressed up as a sport bike. Folks who are shopping around based on the price tag, will still end up there.
 
Brian P said:
I tend to suspect "not available here". It's not on Kawasaki's Canadian website.
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Being released as a 2020 bike in Thailand 1st. It is a "world bike" so EU will have it sooner or later. It'll come to NA if there's demand for it

I know of 1 customer already! :p
 
TK4 said:
Don't hold your breath.
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No demand , I get it. Precisely why the motorcycle industry is dead in Ontario ..... One of these would not be considered a SS ... what a little pocket rocket ,flying under insurance radars!
 
sid_for_speed said:
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Looks amazing!! Why isn't any one talking about this bike?? 4cylinder engine, upside down forks, traction control. KQS, ABS, slipper clutch,...basically the works thrown at it

will you get it for 9k ??? very tempting!

How will compare to the Honda 650R, I wonder?
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I would be shocked if it was anywhere near 9k in Canada. People are hoping for under 10k usd. With the high part count it isnt much cheaper to build than a 600. If it came, my bet would be $1000 under the zx6r (so $10999) or higher. I could even see them pricing it at parity with the 600 and letting insurance costs drive sales. At that price they will sell a couple, but probably not enough to bother importing it.
 
can get a lot of other bikes less than $10k, after tax, fees etc, this is a 12K+ bike. There are many bike for much less, more power, and use the savings on the insurance. This has RR in the name, insurance companies will gouge either way
 
ScorpionT16 said:
can get a lot of other bikes less than $10k, after tax, fees etc, this is a 12K+ bike. There are many bike for much less, more power, and use the savings on the insurance. This has RR in the name, insurance companies will gouge either way
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They gouge based on RR badge + capacity..
 
If someone has $10k to burn as their first bike, I doubt they will worry about pricey insurance. CC's don't always mean lower, I paid less Insurance for my SV650 than I do for my CB500X. Add that most will finance this $10k bike, that raises premiums vs getting any 250-300cc on the market for $2-4k outright
 
This bike won't be for the "this is my first bike" price-shoppers. Even within the Kawasaki showroom, those will be shown the Ninja 400. This bike will be for the experienced riders who appreciate having to do something, work the gearbox, get involved with the bike, and yet still place a value on their driver's license. That fits me to a T and if it shows up here, I would probably end up with one in the collection.

I wouldn't need to finance it ....
 
J_F said:
no one in NA is going to pay 10K (or more) for a 250
would be a neat little track bike
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Because North Americans are retarded and equate bigger is better to everything, hence why we're so ******* fat lol

I would absolutely love this as a street bike. I've owned a 750 and 1000 on the street, and spent 2 years on track with the 750. While I love knowing my road penis is in the upper 0.1% with either bike, I have zero self control and riding a fast bike slow is really boring.

...maybe this thing will go over pinecones at slow speed too lol
 
Insurance too high people complain, yet most are willing to pay that 10k+ price tag for a 250, because they can't control themselves on another bike, call me baffled. It's a neat bike, and I'm all for smaller/lighter is more fun, though for 10k I can think of a lot more bikes, even smaller, like supermoto's that can be more fun and even cheaper to insurance, and hop curbs. More bike options the merrier.
 
Potentially a really cool bike but curious about the rev limit, power figures etc. Kinda sad that they're putting this engine in a steel framed bike though. Hopefully it's still really light.
 
Nothing wrong with a properly designed steel frame. Ask Ducati ... or KTM. If that's what helps keep the price tag manageable, I have no issue with it.

Ninja 400, Yamaha R3, Honda CBR250/300/500 all have steel frames.

For that matter ... Kawasaki's own nasty H2/H2R/H2SX has a steel frame!
 
Brian P said:
Nothing wrong with a properly designed steel frame. Ask Ducati ... or KTM. If that's what helps keep the price tag manageable, I have no issue with it.

Ninja 400, Yamaha R3, Honda CBR250/300/500 all have steel frames.

For that matter ... Kawasaki's own nasty H2/H2R/H2SX has a steel frame!
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As an actual weekend race/track bike isn't steel actually a better idea? Less likely to break and easier to fix?
 
Steel is more likely to bend, and be able to be bent back without snapping. If you do break something, it's easier to weld.

The thin-wall cast-aluminum subframes that some of the premium sport bikes have been using lately, are brittle and practically unrepairable.
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