hey guys...i m currently having r6.I m thinking of upgrading to 2016 R1M or 2016 R1...i m confused between the two ? i don't do track racing ....so need ur opinion guys...?
Need ur Advice Regarding R1M and R1
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Drennan57
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Hey fella, you're entitled to your opinion but from my standpoint the differences between the two models are extensive and shouldn't be taken lightly.
It loses all of the Magnesium lightweight parts including the wheels, oil pan, engine covers etc. The Titanium parts are also replaced with steel, connecting rods, exhaust headers etc. The engine also see's the bargain bin application on the valves and cam rods which ultimately lowers the power and peak RPM range. More weight and less power is the end result and that is always noticeable.
But i do agree with you that the S is the way to go in the OP's case :thumbup:.
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Yeah but the difference in weight is less than 9lbs....where as the difference in price is close to $3000. Are you willing to spend $3000 more just to say you have titanium rods, or magnesium bolts?
The R1 and R1M all rev higher and make peak HP at a higher RPM than the S, so in a real world application. Where you want the revs and power lower...the S wins.
Drennan57
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It's closer to $2000 but for Street riding it wouldn't make a difference.
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let's all recall that the S was the new technology a few years ago winning races...so it's not like they are using scrap metal here.
As for the 9lbs difference, change the exhaust should trim 9lbs
OR
lose 10-15 lbs your body weight and all is good
If you are going to ride track around here why not get a nice GSXR 750 and mod it out, light and fast, more fun.
A litre bike on paper looks like a 600cc e.g. weight but once you are riding and that spinning mass and power kicks in, very different machine.
It takes experience to ride a litre bike...if not you are likely headed for trouble.
There is a reason MotoGP has the smaller cc classes otherwise just put everyone on a litre bike from day 1.
just my 3 cents
good luck
invest in proper gear
As for the 9lbs difference, change the exhaust should trim 9lbs
OR
lose 10-15 lbs your body weight and all is good
If you are going to ride track around here why not get a nice GSXR 750 and mod it out, light and fast, more fun.
A litre bike on paper looks like a 600cc e.g. weight but once you are riding and that spinning mass and power kicks in, very different machine.
It takes experience to ride a litre bike...if not you are likely headed for trouble.
There is a reason MotoGP has the smaller cc classes otherwise just put everyone on a litre bike from day 1.
just my 3 cents
good luck
invest in proper gear
let's all recall that the S was the new technology a few years ago winning races...so it's not like they are using scrap metal here.
As for the 9lbs difference, change the exhaust should trim 9lbs
OR
lose 10-15 lbs your body weight and all is good
If you are going to ride track around here why not get a nice GSXR 750 and mod it out, light and fast, more fun.
A litre bike on paper looks like a 600cc e.g. weight but once you are riding and that spinning mass and power kicks in, very different machine.
It takes experience to ride a litre bike...if not you are likely headed for trouble.
There is a reason MotoGP has the smaller cc classes otherwise just put everyone on a litre bike from day 1.
just my 3 cents
good luck
invest in proper gear
Sure you could get a good chunk of that weight back with the exhaust, but it's where the weight is save over how much. Lighter wheels is one of the best upgrades you can do. The effect is noticeable and honestly worth the extra coin; particularly if you're the type to spend money upgrading over the life of the bike.
The cam rods shouldn't be of concern on the street if you keep the knocker plates in spec. It's not like you'll be replacing the valves with new matic valves regularly.
