XenoVibe
Well-known member
How come you downgraded from super sport bikes?
Ninja 300 vs Cbr 500
- Thread starter TSquared
- Start date
op stated insurance and riding position.
Had to google it, pretty nice bike, dunno about the headlights though. LCD display with a shift alert, pretty cool. Wonder how much it is.
WOW! Totally didnt expect KTM would release a sport bike like this!! They did release some entry level dirt/street bike, like Duke 200 and 390 in other countries. They are surely going to hit a wider audience and gain more sales!! But I don't think it will come to Canada. Any confirm news?? I would be definitely interested in this but the price I am guessing $7499.
Get the Ninja 300.
Honestly, I don't feel like the insurance hit is worth it for 200CCs, you'll barely feel the the difference. Plus, Honda's new color scheme looks like ***.
I've ridden a GS500F for 2 years and ride my gf's 250 once in a while. The main difference between the two was that the GS felt fatter and had faster acceleration from 100+ but on both bikes the throttle was almost always pinned. If you're coming from an SS, you'll find throttle control much more forgiving and relaxing.
Honestly, I don't feel like the insurance hit is worth it for 200CCs, you'll barely feel the the difference. Plus, Honda's new color scheme looks like ***.
I've ridden a GS500F for 2 years and ride my gf's 250 once in a while. The main difference between the two was that the GS felt fatter and had faster acceleration from 100+ but on both bikes the throttle was almost always pinned. If you're coming from an SS, you'll find throttle control much more forgiving and relaxing.
N3WMAN
Well-known member
It's a KTM. Price will definitely be a factor.
XenoVibe
Well-known member
I meant size lol, aren't the CBR125R/250R still the same ergonomic design as the other sports bikes? Hey OP, why not switch up to a SuMo or Sport Touring?
Slip-ons also generally don't give you more power...-___-' you lose power.
PLau
Well-known member
油井緋色;2098690 said:
Usually they save you on some weight and sometimes a small difference like +1-5hp but most people have it for the sound because they like it or because they strongly believe "loud pipes save lives".
Btw, the difference between the Ninja 300 and GS500F for me in insurance was $140/month vs $283/month - then again, I didn't shop around for the gs500f cause I was leaning towards the ninja to begin with.
Last edited:
Yup, if I could do it all over again, I would've gotten a Ninja. The power isn't double but the insurance cost is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_300
The Honda has 34% more power, but 20% more weight. I like the ergonomics on the Ninja, and the built quality seems a bit better than the Honda.
With ABS, both are excellent bikes, more than enough to get into trouble with. Looks like the Ninja brakes better due to the weight, and lighter bikes are always nicer to turn.
The other player next year is Yamaha, which is bringing back the RD brand, likely with a 300 four stroke.
The Honda has 34% more power, but 20% more weight. I like the ergonomics on the Ninja, and the built quality seems a bit better than the Honda.
With ABS, both are excellent bikes, more than enough to get into trouble with. Looks like the Ninja brakes better due to the weight, and lighter bikes are always nicer to turn.
The other player next year is Yamaha, which is bringing back the RD brand, likely with a 300 four stroke.
Yes, but apples and oranges- these are better quality bikes.
It may come here, as worldwide, the bikes that are selling are in the 125-250 range. The big engine bike market is pretty saturated, and they aren't selling well.
Hard to image any decent sales in Ontario with our insane insurance rates on big bikes.
The HP gains are rarely verified by a third party. they may give you a few hp at top end 100% throttle, but that usually means a worse low-mid range. This gets really complex with EFI and throttle mapping.
As for LPSL...not my experience. Here's a video ....
[video=youtube;eaSR0BQPNMw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eaSR0BQPNMw[/video]
Instead of revving the throttle, which broadcasts sound out the back, he should have used his horn, with broadcasts a higher frequency sound forward. But, I doubt his hipster cafe had a horn. Either way, that was Texas, and getting into an argument like that in Texas could get you shot.
Last edited:
sid_for_speed
Well-known member
Skyway6
Well-known member
yep. weighs almost as much as my 650 Versys (454lb vs Honda 432lb) The abs ninja 300 is 383lb.
So you have a 500cc Honda pushing a 432lb bike with 47hp vs a 300cc Ninja pushing a 383lb bike the 39hp
油井緋色;2098548 said:
True, but you are also comparing FI bikes to carbs. Ninja 300 will have a better throttle response than the GS and the 250. Still relaxed compared to an SS of course
Dresden
Well-known member
Here's a decent review:
Even though they say the 500 is the best "value" of the 3, they are basing it on a couple of factors: 1) MSRP pricing and 2) Making a broad comparison.
In the real world, you can get a hell of a deal on the 300. It is not much slower than the 500, and the insurance price will be a LOT less. Unless you plan on doing 2-3 hour long highway rides, I think the light weight flick-able Ninja 300 is an awesome bike.
Wait for the quote at the end - Top gear roll on, the Ninja 300 was pretty well dead even with the CBR 500
[video=youtube;dGuHgxmUfOk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGuHgxmUfOk[/video]
Even though they say the 500 is the best "value" of the 3, they are basing it on a couple of factors: 1) MSRP pricing and 2) Making a broad comparison.
In the real world, you can get a hell of a deal on the 300. It is not much slower than the 500, and the insurance price will be a LOT less. Unless you plan on doing 2-3 hour long highway rides, I think the light weight flick-able Ninja 300 is an awesome bike.
Wait for the quote at the end - Top gear roll on, the Ninja 300 was pretty well dead even with the CBR 500
[video=youtube;dGuHgxmUfOk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGuHgxmUfOk[/video]
PLau
Well-known member
Whats wrong with long highway rides? Upright seating position and enough power so tucking is not necessary at all with enough pull to overtake going 120-130 easily. I did an 8-10 hr ride with the cbr125 - now that had trouble on the highway. I fail to see the issue with the ninja 300 though.
I think I have to try the CBR500 during the next demo ride to actually feel the difference >.>
Also, on a side note, the CBR500 was 2x my insurance premium for the 300.
