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The funny part isn't paying a mechanic to do work, it's taking no interest in learning how to do a basic check over of something that could kill you if something were to fail. You should be doing this far more often then how often your bike goes into rosey toes. Part of riding is learning how to check basic things like chain tension to insure your own safety. Everything has a failure rate, this includes work done by a mechanic, as no one is perfect 100% of the time. With a car you just bring the car back, on 2 wheels it can kill you, so yes there is some onus on you to learn the absolute basics if you plan on doing this for a long time.
 
I've been riding 10+ years and never had much issues. Only reason I still have this bike is because it's the first I've had from almost new that hasn't been stolen. I'm bike shopping as we speak buying new again I grow tired of these issues lol. I do a walk around most times and do know most of the basics but your absolutely right I became complacent and that's when things can go wrong. It's as much my fault as anyone elses. I took it a bit for granted that I was paying a "professional" 90 bucks and hour and trusted at face value.
 
samakaflash said:
I've been riding 10+ years and never had much issues. Only reason I still have this bike is because it's the first I've had from almost new that hasn't been stolen. I'm bike shopping as we speak buying new again I grow tired of these issues lol. I do a walk around most times and do know most of the basics but your absolutely right I became complacent and that's when things can go wrong. It's as much my fault as anyone elses. I took it a bit for granted that I was paying a "professional" 90 bucks and hour and trusted at face value.
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You paid a pro to install tires, not wheel bearings.

You seem to know very little about what cause this but your quick to place the blame.

If riders choice did your oil change and a rod let go the next day you would probably hold them responsible as well wouldnt you?
 
FriendlyFoe said:
The funny part isn't paying a mechanic to do work, it's taking no interest in learning how to do a basic check over of something that could kill you if something were to fail. You should be doing this far more often then how often your bike goes into rosey toes. Part of riding is learning how to check basic things like chain tension to insure your own safety. Everything has a failure rate, this includes work done by a mechanic, as no one is perfect 100% of the time. With a car you just bring the car back, on 2 wheels it can kill you, so yes there is some onus on you to learn the absolute basics if you plan on doing this for a long time.
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No...I think C-Note poking fun at Ted Rose and him doing a thorough checkup...
 
01cbr said:
You paid a pro to install tires, not wheel bearings.

You seem to know very little about what cause this but your quick to place the blame.

If riders choice did your oil change and a rod let go the next day you would probably hold them responsible as well wouldnt you?
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If it were low on oil yes I would it's funny that actually happened to a friend of mine recently. So you feel that they are not responsible no matter what happens ? So if they did some work on your brakes and next day you can't stop will you have the same opinion?
 
Plus that "pro" was the last person to touch my chain as well which was over tightened I'm man enough to admit my failings is double checking a so called professionals work. Shouldn't he do the same?

So according to you any mechanic anywhere can do half assed job with no wrong doing or ever being held accountable? Geez I picked the wrong profession.
 
The chain should be checked and adjusted again shortly after riding on your new tire.

I also wouldnt necessarily take Ted's word on such a matter... he's old school and I could easily see him thinkin that a 1.5" slack is "too tight" especially considering that he probably didnt even measure it.

You obviously dont really know what you're talking about. You didnt pay RC for a new bearing, you paid them to install a tire. And the fact that you trust Ted to be thorough and methodical is equally laughable.
 
samakaflash said:
If it were low on oil yes I would it's funny that actually happened to a friend of mine recently. So you feel that they are not responsible no matter what happens ? So if they did some work on your brakes and next day you can't stop will you have the same opinion?
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I wrote an oil change which would suggest they actually replaced the oil, not that low oil would even cause a rod to let go...

I never said they would never be responsible, im saying your clueless and have no right to place the blame.
 
Professionals are humans, humans make mistakes. Check everyone's work and never assume. Also call a shop if they screwed up first to get **** resolved before coming on the intertubes and dragging people's names through the mud.
 
Low oil did just that to my friend
Let go in the highway.

And isn't that my point? Good mechanics are hard to find I have a bunch of vehicles that I need to run for my business and for play.
 
dricked said:
Professionals are humans, humans make mistakes. Check everyone's work and never assume. Also call a shop if they screwed up first to get **** resolved before coming on the intertubes and dragging people's names through the mud.
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I did call them first as I said an they were a tad rude. If my intent were to drag them through the mud I'd repeat what they said to me lol.

Ok so who do you all take your bikes to? Shall we have a poll?
 
You still dont get it.

Riders Choice did nothing wrong.
 
Brian P said:
If the axle nut is correctly torqued and the tire replacement job did not include changing the wheel bearings then the shop is not liable in ANY way for this.

It looks like the outer spacers are there. The inner spacer is trapped inside the wheel between the two wheel bearings and cannot be removed without removing the wheel bearings, which is certainly not part of a tire change job. The seal on that side would not be disturbed in the process of changing the tire. That seal is obviously trashed now, but the tire job doesn't involve touching it other than sticking the spacer into it.

Coincidental failure. Deal with it.
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FWIW,there is a spacer between the cush bearing and wheel bearing.If left out,it will do this type of damage.

Are you sure this bike is fixed?Is the spacer in there? part #64733-35F00
 
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samakaflash said:
I did call them first as I said an they were a tad rude. If my intent were to drag them through the mud I'd repeat what they said to me lol.

Ok so who do you all take your bikes to? Shall we have a poll?
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I wouldnt recommend you to my mechanic.
 
I do my own work in my garadge on my lift, and I take my rims in for tire changes (I hate spooning). I also don't do suspension overhauls, leave that to the pros. Poll away.
 
samakaflash.........I expect you to apoligize to RC

read this post....TWO TIMES

I like STORIES like yours....so I look into them....I know what my gut feels about it....but facts are facts

your bike has about 60,000klm on it.....its been riden hard...or lack of proper care

tire balancing....I've seen it done many ways and many places..I have a car tire guy in the next shop to me.....I thought I knew how RC did it....wrong

I went in to the store today and looked at how they change a tire....

yes they have a tire machine...and that is done that way. like all.....but their computer BALANCER is for bikes only

on a car & other balancers its done as I said in my post above.......BUT on this ELECTRONIC balancer the wheel "IS" SUPPORTED on just the bearings.

Its hand spun so you can feel and hear any bearing noise and see any bends...

then spun by the electric motor and the computer takes over and shows where to add weights..its designed this way...to catch worn out bearings

If your bearing was wornout at that time....it would have never been able to pass balance with this hi tec machine

you were told all this by RC staff.........were you listening?

SO..I think your story/opinion is WRONG......

you said in the past, that you never have had any problems with RC .......Is there a problem?
 
I'd like to believe there isn't a problem like I said I don't know much but another shop told me contradictory information. I'd apologize if I'd came right out and accused them when I called which I didn't do.
 
samakaflash said:
I'd like to believe there isn't a problem like I said I don't know much but another shop told me contradictory information. I'd apologize if I'd came right out and accused them when I called which I didn't do.
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Unless that other shop has a crystal ball the info you got from the other shop is only conjecture. For someone who admits he isn't mechanically inclined you sure don't act it.

BTW, +1 GSXMAER, great post.
 
GSXMAER said:
then spun by the electric motor and the computer takes over and shows where to add weights..its designed this way...to catch worn out bearings

If your bearing was wornout at that time....it would have never been able to pass balance with this hi tec machine

you were told all this by RC staff.........were you listening?

SO..I think your story/opinion is WRONG......
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Did you see the video in the first post? I actually didn't know that about balancing machines but that makes sense, if it catches worn out bearings it should catch a bearing thats about to implode. The OP's bearing failure was catastrophic, i've only been into bikes for 4 years now so have far from seen it all, but spend a lot of time on interweb forums and have never heard of a failure like that happening.

Also where did you get 60k from? Does it say that somewhere in the thread because i missed that, or are you assuming that because the bikes 6 years old?

I honestly really expected ted to take the sprocket assembly off and find the inside spacer missing (not the one between the bearings, the one inside the sprocket). I wouldn't think that anything else could cause that kind of failure.
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