Did anyone see the TV show Market Place about a year ago? From memory: It was about autos but I assume it also related to motorcycles. They proved that the UVIP was so bad as to be basically useless, incomplete and inaccurate. Accidents, repairs and right-off were often not listed. And many, the not good dealerships, never cared about the report or lied.
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UVIP kicks ***
- Thread starter RodneyBR
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As stated above a dealer does not have to provide you with a UVIP.
But, you're entitled to ask for a history package (carfax/carproof, etc...)
Which will provide more details than a UVIP, on cars specifically.
are you sure that was about theUVIP, and not carfax/proof etc?
Correction on my part. It was Carfax that was pathetically lacking and extremely unreliable, not UVIP.
It was definitely about shady dealers not disclosing accidents, etc...
A specific dealer, maybe a few KM's up the street from my lot was rated the worst lol
He was selling cars that were basically welded in halves and claiming it as a "minor" accident.
I'll look for the link...
redlinerush
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good call! you can't beat vegas! j/k 
insert
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a dealer cannot sell a vehicle with a lien. legally, they are not allowed to, it can happen, and if it does the law is 100% on your side to get the dealer to clear the lien. its guaranteed by OMVIC http://www.omvic.on.ca/info/faqs/consumer_faqs.htm#Q6 . they would prefer you to first ask the dealer to do this, probably asa courtesy, and if they dont, they will be slammed and you will not end up having to pay.
as for "unfit" pretty much al vehicles on a dealers lot will be unfit. unfit just means that the ownership transferred without a safety, dealers generally dont safety things they buy because tehy wont be plating them, rather, they'll safety them when they sell them. so a safety will get rid of the unfit.
what you want to watch out for are for vehicle branding... here are the different branding categories on mto site. http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/branding/faq.shtml#a7
Here's the dealers reply, " If there is a lien still showing its only a phone call to get the release, as I explained i and you are protected from liens, thats why I pay so much to be a dealer. Unfotunately the uvip and the banks are not connected, so when its get paid it still shows as active."
Not sure what/who to believe.
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Not sure what/who to believe.
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I heard no one can register vehicle with out a UVIP?
As for the op I personally would not worry about a Lien on the bike From a dealer. And I agree with everyone that says they stay "unfit" until they sell the bike to a customer unless they sell it "as is"
As for the op I personally would not worry about a Lien on the bike From a dealer. And I agree with everyone that says they stay "unfit" until they sell the bike to a customer unless they sell it "as is"
Because a dealer can do all the paperwork for you and plate the vehicle.
When I bought my truck I came to pick it up and it was in my name and plated and ready to go.
No.
What's so confusing!?
If you're buying from a dealer, you don't have to worry about a lien.
Any accidents must be disclosed, if not you're entitled for a full refund even after you take delivery of the vehicle.
It's simple, don't over think things.
rbjeepthing
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I have always disagreed with the fact that dealers do not need to provide the UVIP. While they are obligated to disclose all accident information they do not always do!
That's why you're protected by OMVIC.
If you find that the vehicle you purchased has a claim, then you are entitled to get your full money back. No deductions.
You only really need a carproof/carfax report when you're buying from a dealer.
In which case, they have to provide you with it.
A UVIP is only really useful when you're buying private, where liens/title could be a problem, you also need the last page, as it is the bill of sale.
When it comes to accidents, the UVIP is completely useless.
It will only tell you the title, if it's clean, branded, salvaged, rebuilt, etc...
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We're talking in context of vehicle title transfers, aka buying and selling vehicles. YOU can't register the vehicle as FIT unless you clear a safety. It remains fit as long as the registration is still under the old owner (provided it was plated in the first place), but then it's not your vehicle is it?
Now you're just arguing semantics. Move along.
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