wireless helmet headset/audio system?

ayahsoo

ayahsoo

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any thoughts on these gadgets?
Looking for a gadget that connects with cellphone wirelessly, and should also be able to play ipod/phone
connects to the helmet and not hooked on the ears. a mic is a nicetohave.

any reccommendations?
 
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I see very little difference between bike-to-bike communication systems and cellular telephones. Furthermore, I am convinced that the distraction is NOT what you might be doing with your hands; it is instead the mental effort you divert from riding and use instead for concentrating on the conversation.

I certainly wish that Ontario's laws banned the use by drivers of cell phones and other forms of communication, regardless of whether the device is held in a hand, clipped on an ear, or integrated with the vehicle in some fashion.

So I recommend you save your money, and perhaps your life, and maybe even mine.

If you want to talk, there are plenty of reasons to pause and enjoy a break. So basically, the instrument I recommend, to accomplish communication, is the kickstand.
 
Never used one have you?
The reason we bought our sets is for safety but there is no convincing some people set in their ways. :rolleyes:

Using handheld devices indeed are banned and rightfully so as the mechanical distraction is obvious. Handsfree, be it motorcycles or cars have obvious advantages for hundreds of thousands of people and if your "safety" premise was correct there would be a huge spike in traffic accidents to match the huge spike in handsfree device use.....
memo....> there isn't.

BTW there is a brand new G4 Solo available - got our orders tangled up.

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...-unopened-current-model&p=1674491#post1674491
 
ayahsoo said:
any thoughts on these gadgets?
Looking for a gadget that connects with cellphone wirelessly, and should also be able to play ipod/phone
connects to the helmet and not hooked on the ears. a mic is a nicetohave.

any reccommendations?
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i actually use a bluetooth headset that connects with my phone. I keep the volume low enough to provide background music. if a call comes in the music stops and it picks up automatically.
its low tech but it work great.
 
I agree with previous users' comments that it is a huge distraction...

BUT if you really want something that has bluetooth + ipod capabilities, buy a helmet that has that technology built into it. I just bought the HJC Symax 3, you have the option of buying the chatterbox for ipod and bluetooth. Here's the helmet i got --> http://www.revzilla.com/product/hjc-symax-3-helmet
I didnt buy the chatterbox tho, I would be way too distracted.
 
Salos Dafee said:
I see very little difference between bike-to-bike communication systems and cellular telephones. Furthermore, I am convinced that the distraction is NOT what you might be doing with your hands; it is instead the mental effort you divert from riding and use instead for concentrating on the conversation.

I certainly wish that Ontario's laws banned the use by drivers of cell phones and other forms of communication, regardless of whether the device is held in a hand, clipped on an ear, or integrated with the vehicle in some fashion.

So I recommend you save your money, and perhaps your life, and maybe even mine.

If you want to talk, there are plenty of reasons to pause and enjoy a break. So basically, the instrument I recommend, to accomplish communication, is the kickstand.
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I agree with you to a point. The cell phone problem is not solved by handsfree other than the looking away from the road to punch in the numbers. But, two way radio communication between two riders I perceive as no different than talking to the person in the seat beside you in a car. You're both facing the same road conditions and when it isn't a good time to be talking you'll both know it. When riding with my wife I would benefit from the ability to just chat with her about upcoming stops or turns or "did you see the size of that vulture I just missed?" type of comments. I think that's better than trying to crane around and pantomine my communications to her. I just haven't bought one because the cost for the Scala's seems ridiculous to me. The one linked at the beginning of this thread looks interesting, if it works.
 
You got it -
and the idea that "pulling over" is safer verges on ludicrous.

Trying to get buddy's attention on a freeway or twisty road that there is something wrong with their bike or we have to turn up here makes riding far safer and more fun.

We double up - buddy with GPS trails - I keep an eye out for hazards and he tells me where to turn - shares the work better and on the boring stretches we chat.

We coordinate gas stops, pit stops and food etc and if an upcoming road looks interesting....it's a different world with comm and a much better and safer one.

If you are anal about "safe" ....don't ride let alone talk. Two sets of eyes in communication can stay safer and more alert.

i just love people that make a judgement call without ever using something......pathetic.
 
Received the (pair) BIM from Dealextreme yesterday... (took about 4 weeks from purchase date)..
Slight hitch, one of the charges seem not to work so well..
Also doesnt seem to be able to be BT connected to my iPod and phone at the same time .. Will do Interphone and Phone, but not iPod and Phone.. (manual seem to cliam it can as it says the device will auto switch to phone if a call comes in while listening music.. maybe it mean iPhone?? )
Contacted customer service re the charger issues.. will update..
 
Salos Dafee said:
I see very little difference between bike-to-bike communication systems and cellular telephones. Furthermore, I am convinced that the distraction is NOT what you might be doing with your hands; it is instead the mental effort you divert from riding and use instead for concentrating on the conversation.

I certainly wish that Ontario's laws banned the use by drivers of cell phones and other forms of communication, regardless of whether the device is held in a hand, clipped on an ear, or integrated with the vehicle in some fashion.

So I recommend you save your money, and perhaps your life, and maybe even mine.

If you want to talk, there are plenty of reasons to pause and enjoy a break. So basically, the instrument I recommend, to accomplish communication, is the kickstand.
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I disagree... for many, the phone / conversation distracts the driver from driving (for those same people, the colour blue distracts them from driving). Those people should not be behind the wheel. For me, the driving distracts from conversations. Ask many of my passengers how many times I've stopped mid-story because my focus was actually on the road. As how many times I've interrupted my own story with "that guy's going to cut me off" or something similar.

I wouldn't mind a device like this, at least to listen to music without having ear buds in my ear. The talking would be cool, but I'm sure my conversations wouldn't be in-depth, just quick and simple updates to the route, conditions, etc.

BTW, radios were also believed to be distracting when they were first introduced in vehicles.

To the OP, just make sure to use good judgement. If you find the wireless helmet headset / audio system to be too distracting, stop using it. If you don't (and make sure you're honest with yourself), then enjoy!
 
Conversations with my daughter while riding often makes the time go by nicely on the more boring stretches and I'm more relaxed.
There is an off button and in my case I don't have to touch a thing to receive calls.
The system answers and hangs up when I hang up.

If you are still at the noob point of really having to concentrate on riding in day to day circumstances ( as opposed to twisties where you do )....then perhaps riding is not for you.

Most of riding is as reflexive as walking - you don't "concentrate" on walking.
I guarantee riders here know of times when miles have passed unnoticed......"hey - already here!!!!"

It's one reason flat out saddle time is important to build those automatic responses so you slow when you need to, shift lanes, stay off the oily spot, stay right on a blind crest and you don't have to think about it.

Fiddling with buttons etc IS a bad thing....car or bike.
 
EngineerJoe said:
I disagree... for many, the phone / conversation distracts the driver from driving (for those same people, the colour blue distracts them from driving). Those people should not be behind the wheel. For me, the driving distracts from conversations. Ask many of my passengers how many times I've stopped mid-story because my focus was actually on the road. As how many times I've interrupted my own story with "that guy's going to cut me off" or something similar.

I wouldn't mind a device like this, at least to listen to music without having ear buds in my ear. The talking would be cool, but I'm sure my conversations wouldn't be in-depth, just quick and simple updates to the route, conditions, etc.

BTW, radios were also believed to be distracting when they were first introduced in vehicles.

To the OP, just make sure to use good judgement. If you find the wireless helmet headset / audio system to be too distracting, stop using it. If you don't (and make sure you're honest with yourself), then enjoy!
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Thanks.. I agree.

in regards to the post you responded to, you are spot on.
Its a ridiculous argument that proposes more government regulations instead of the application of COMMON SENSE and MATURE JUDGEMENT..
 
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I've been running Sena SMH-10's both paired and single all season and got it because I started going two up and thought it would help her confidence instead of being "luggage" on the back, being able to give her a play by play of why I'm doing what I'm doing on the bike in traffic. I still gave tips on where to punch me if I'm too fast or she's needs a break if the comms go down :). Two years ago I couldn't imagine why someone would want the infernal things for phone calls or music. Now I love it.

I used to be aggravated taking my bike on a longish business trip because I'm obligated to answer calls. That meant looking for a safe place to pull over or into a plaza, helmet off, fish out the phone, check the message, call them back, etc. It just got me agitated if it was frequent and we all know that's not good for riding. Now I tap my headset once, talk and tap off. They don't even know I'm on my bike. So I get in more bike miles. I actually feel less inconvenienced than when I use a bluetooth earpiece in the car.

The music part I didn't get before but that relaxes me too on the open road - play smooth jazzy fusion music, nothing crazy (OK, some James Brown). I turn it off in town, but then I also turn down the car radio in town.

I'll have a brand new 2nd generation SMH-10 in the mail - for sale as soon as it gets here.
 
just got my Scala G4 and OMG!

riding is very different when you're able to communicate with those you're riding with
the sound quality is awesome on intercom, and the range is also very good

i've also been using the A2DP of the G4 to get music from my phone into my helmet.
very clear sound... only downside is the length of time you have to hold the button to change tracks
 
Yup it is a totally different experience and a good one.
Lower stress and more enjoyment.

Spooky is having a normal conversation start at a stoplight and then realize a bit further along buddy is a km back and no change in voice volume.
Have done a double take more than once over that. Sort of jars your sense of space.

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BTW I wear Ultimate Ears 5 for the music and can still hear the Scala fine when the music is off. ( just turn the volume up )/
I can even use the Scala with ear plugs in but it's a bit too quiet - perfect with the UE5s tho. 23-26 dB attenuation versus 33 for the ear plugs.
Still get hearing protection, top notch sound and the Scala for phone or GPS.

The UE have a on/off skip button and I just use that ( hangs out the front of my jacket ) to kill the sound or skip the track.
I find the Scala buttons a bit of a challenge with the gloves on
 
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fuzion said:
just got my Scala G4 and OMG!

riding is very different when you're able to communicate with those you're riding with
the sound quality is awesome on intercom, and the range is also very good

i've also been using the A2DP of the G4 to get music from my phone into my helmet.
very clear sound... only downside is the length of time you have to hold the button to change tracks
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I agree as a Scala owner if feels funny to now ride and not be chatting. It make riding alot more enjoyable and safer as we can now have 4 eyes on the prowl for hazards.
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