Yeah, that's an HTA charge for $75 or something. A nothing burger. A criminal charge hanging over you makes unwinding your fraudulent transaction a lot cheaper than a lawyer.
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Motorcycle that I bought has a Lien
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Throw it in storage/friends place. Repo guy can come by anytime he wants.
I'll buy them a coffee and listen to the youtube worthy content.
The bigger problem for the buyer is if it's not a track bike, it's basically useless. No way I would put it in my name with an open lien. Can't ride it then. Even if it's a track bike, do the cops still setup at the exit to check for stolen bikes?
I'm pretty confident if you hold out long enough the lien company will blink first. Yes you`re out money, but so are they.
Also if seller decides to default then I can wakeup and smile everyday knowing his credit is a disaster and eventually I'll get some of my money back by selling it later when the situation cools down.
Not ideal, not fun but the seller likely isn't laughing much either.
Ever dealt with collections? F me. I almost wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Selling what later? If the seller decides to default, the lien holder doesn't just clear the lien and let you keep the bike. A bike in purgatory is not worth much. I could be wrong, but I think the only way that lien disappears is if it is paid in full or if the lienholder gets the bike.
You`re not wrong.
I'm banking on the idea that the lien holder will eventually open a dialogue with me about settling the issue. They want their money and I want to register and ride the bike. All buyer needs is a number and he can pay it himself and then take seller to court. All this 'won't accept payment from 3rd party' is complete baloney. I just did this with my XR and the draft to clear the lien didn't have my name on it.
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Jay Alexander
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I'm not one for people with pitchforks, but honestly that seller can get f*cked! I'm petty enough to do everything in my power to bother the hell outta them. That includes signing them up for every type of Scientology/religious mailing group, free community BBQs, free furniture (pickup only, just show yup at xyz street), signing up their phone numbers for garbage, and much more. I'd honestly look up things to sign up for by mail/phone/email. Whatever you can do to make this person's life a living hell.
But first I'd probably show up at their house and demand money back.
But first I'd probably show up at their house and demand money back.
If the seller is already playing ostrich, do you think investing in a judgement will help? More paper, but no good path to turn that paper into money.
IMO the least worst option if they will not clear the lien (and that sounds like a long-shot) is to part it out.
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The worst part is the lien may be trivial and just paperwork (not likely given the seller ostriching but possible).
Mad Mike
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Or find a frame with a clean title.
A friend who is into mid 60s Dodge Darts has a fistful of mid 60s ownerships and matching number plates. He would buy wrecks, scavenge a few desirable parts and the plates. The cars were then chopped up.
He says he's been tempted to alter some models he's worked on, cloning, but if caught it would end his profession.
If at some point in time parts go missing, who knows what happened.
If you get screwed for a grand or two it's safer, faster and easier to make up the money with some legal side gig vs compromising your ethics or legal status in a revenge move. Lesson learned re UVIP. Not all education is free.
You never seen that charge get laid because it's unforceable. All I have to say is that I didn't get the UVIP because I didn't want to sell it to the buyer (assuming the buyer reported me for not providing him with a UVIP).
It's like never hearing of a registered nurse getting charged for not providing aid to an injured person on the road (which by law you have to, you have to provide first-aid). All I have to do is walk away and nobody will ever know.
Wouldn't it be a "civil matter"? I know friends who have worked for shady companies and have not gotten paid and have called cop from the company's office and the cops tell them "sue him in court, it's a civil matter, have a nice day".
If I was the OP I would transfer it to my name, plate it and ride it. The lien company seems like they don't care about getting paid. Who in hell (who is owed money) doesn't accept money from a stranger to pay that debt? OP plate it and enjoy it.
I’m sure the issue lies in privacy. The lien isn’t in the new buyers name. If the guy who bought my XR tried to discuss the same with BMW they would have probably told him to pound sand.
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