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So who's building a 300 track bike?

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Originally Posted by STR
I'm hopefully picking up a Ninja 300 tomorrow that will become my race bike for next year:icon_smile:
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Good for you, man. Hopefully see you at RACE next year. :)
 
STR said:
I'm hopefully picking up a Ninja 300 tomorrow that will become my race bike for next year:)
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Hey, didn't realize whom you were, 'til bakaboy just mentioned we did the RACE license in the same group last July.
Hope you get your Ninja today :)
 
Hopefully more people join us so we'll have some nice sized grids. I plan on setting the pace for those of us that will be racing to not be last! ?
 
I'm looking to compete next season in a class below 600cc multi. Which bike would you suggest based on the number of competitors on the grids last season at either Grand Bend and/or Shannonville? I would hate to spend money on a class with few competitors. I'm thinking of a SV650 or a 300/250cc or ?? with a model year less than 10 years old.
 
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Twotons said:
I'm looking to compete next season in a class below 600cc multi. Which bike would you suggest based on the number of competitors on the grids last season at either Grand Bend and/or Shannonville? I would hate to spend money on a class with few competitors. I'm thinking of a SV650 or a 300/250cc or ?? with a model year less than 10 years old.
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Yep, 250/ 300 should be good next year.
I'd only rode 1000cc machines in recent years (road and track) until I tried a 250 at Shanny this year.
Now I've bought a 250 race bike and I'm selling my Duc 996 road bike, because racing a 250 is some of the best fun you can have with clothes on! Simple as that :)
 
Twotons said:
I'm looking to compete next season in a class below 600cc multi. Which bike would you suggest based on the number of competitors on the grids last season at either Grand Bend and/or Shannonville? I would hate to spend money on a class with few competitors. I'm thinking of a SV650 or a 300/250cc or ?? with a model year less than 10 years old.
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A SV650 would be the bike that can enter the most classes from what many people have said.

The 300 bikes can enter 3 classes including endurance as per the previous post by fugue I quoted below.
fugue said:
There seems to be a lot of confusion, so for those who may still be unclear this is a summary of available small bike sprint racing classes (Endurance has options also).
(Sorry if it's hard to read, GTAM butchered my formatting).
There are 4 classes over 3 organizations, as follows:

SOAR:
Lightweight Production
Lightweight Superbike

RACE:
Lightweight Production
Lightweight Superbike
300 Production

CSBK National:
Kawi 300 Spec


Class details are as follows:

Kawi 300 Spec (CSBK):
Kawi 300's only, stock or kitted according to Kawi's whims (specific parts list). No full details available until next year - probably not the best place for noobs to try their hand by the looks of things as cost will likely be a large factor.

Lightweight Production (RACE, SOAR):
Class that includes _production_ bikes only. All allowed bikes are roughly in the same performance class, with the following displacement limits:
380cc Four stroke multi or twin (i.e. Ninja 300/250, R3)
400cc Four stroke single (i.e. RC390, CBR250/300)
500cc Four stroke air cooled (vintage legal)
400cc Two stroke air cooled street based
For those who don't know, the 2 stroke bikes allowed here are NOT GP machines, but are street based, which means that the power to weight ratios compared to, say a Ninja 300, will be about the same (the 4-strokes most likely have the advantage, actually). There are very few 2-strokes other than very old stuff that will fit this category. Every bike that could possibly be legal for this class will be in the same performance ballpark. This would be the class to race if you were interested in starting out on a small bike.

Lightweight Superbike (RACE, SOAR):
Class for lightweight bikes of increased performance but not up to 600 class standards. Much more variety is allowed here, with the following displacement limits:
500cc Four stroke, liquid cooled multis (i.e. FZR 400, EX500, CB500)
650cc Four stroke, liquid cooled twins (i.e. SV650, Hawk GT650)
Unlimited singles
750cc Four stroke, air cooled, multis (Vintage eligible)
800cc Four stroke, air cooled, twins (Vintage eligible)
500cc Street based two stroke
250cc GP based two stroke (Lost Era eligible)
125cc GP based two stroke
Lots of bikes could potentially be competitive here, but this is not quite the right place for a Ninja300 (even though it could be somewhat competitive with a good rider) as it is a superbike class, not a production class. Could be good as a secondary class just to get laps in. This class has the potential to be completely dominated by 650 twins and become Lightweight Twins II, but thus far that has not occurred.

300 Production (RACE):
This class was created quietly at the urging of Bakaboy to give 300 class production bikes a second racing class to be competitive in. Rules are slightly more restricted than Lightweight Production, but this is a fantastic second class for small production bikes at RACE. Due to the nature of how and when the class was created there is no information in the rulebook regarding its existence (bad on RACE).


All the above information is available at the respective racing organizations websites, or here at GTAM.

If you are interested in racing a 300 class machine, then there are options - you just have to come out and try it. You will be gridded with only machines of like type (excluding Superbike, but it is not a production class), and I bet you'll like it.
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With the 5 250's that were at RACE last year and the 4-5 guys that already bought/started prepping bikes to go next year we should have decent grid sizes.

Imagine if Benny!, DavetheCanuck, JoeyB, vrus(w/ 5 or 6 people), doozerdave, fiddleguy, sid_for_speed, parillaguy, and Owen who all expressed interest in this thread alone decided to go race. The grid sizes would be huge. Maybe bakaboy will come race with us, he did after all basically singlehandedly create another class for us.

Everybody always says "One day I will do this or that!" and I've found that if you don't just go and do it, "One day" will never come and it will never happen.

Rant over.
 
To that point

An email from all interested parties to RACE expressing a desire for the "300 Production" and the "Lightweight Production" classes to be part of the rulebook and class structure would be a prudent move.

Edit: If you apply for your 2016 race license you will not see "300 Production" on that list. It was added in 2015 due to demand. If you want it for 2016 then you need to show that their is $ there for the organization to add it.

I refer you back to this summer in Post #123:

"If you sit on your hands the class will disappear. Especially when I stop supporting the low cc bike class shortly."
 
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bakaboy said:
To that point

An email from all interested parties to RACE expressing a desire for the "300 Production" and the "Lightweight Production" classes to be part of the rulebook and class structure would be a prudent move.

Edit: If you apply for your 2016 race license you will not see "300 Production" on that list. It was added in 2015 due to demand. If you want it for 2016 then you need to show that their is $ there for the organization to add it.
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Yep, you're right, that's a great idea.
STR, Supernam and anybody else into it; let's do that soon!

Bakaboy, do you reckon it's worth doing that asap, or maybe wait 'til January; when a few more guys 'n' girls have their ducks (and bikes) in a row? .... So whom do I send the email to: Chris at Shanny, perhaps?
 
In hindsight I should not have posted on this thread...I don't want to derail the momentum being generated for the 300/250 class. That was my bad. That said, thank-you for the comments.
 
Mikeyboy said:
Yep, you're right, that's a great idea.
STR, Supernam and anybody else into it; let's do that soon!

Bakaboy, do you reckon it's worth doing that asap, or maybe wait 'til January; when a few more guys 'n' girls have their ducks (and bikes) in a row? .... So whom do I send the email to: Chris at Shanny, perhaps?
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I would suggest reaching out to them now. They start building their schedule soon and it's never a bad idea to give them as much notice as possible. race@shannonville.com will get you to Chris at RACE/Shannonville
 
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STR said:
Yup, looking forward to being beat by you on track next season:)
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"Ha-haa!" Don't know about that, I've seen you ride a couple of times. You'll soon get used to that Ninja and start kicking my ***! Who cares, it'll be fun either way :)
 
Todd929 said:
I would suggest reaching out to them now. They start building their schedule soon and it's never a bad idea to give them as much notice as possible. race@shannonville.com will get you to Chris at RACE/Shannonville
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Ok, so can all ladies and gents interested in doing the 300 Production Class at RACE in 2016 please flip me your names and whether you intend to have a machine ready to go for 2016.
I'm Mike and my email address is moykul@gmail-dot-com
Let's strike while the iron's hot, so I can get an email to RACE in the next week. Sound good ?
 
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Mikeyboy said:
Ok, so can all ladies and gents interested in doing the 300 Production Class at RACE in 2016 please flip me your names and whether you intend to have a machine ready to go for 2016.
I'm Mike and my email address is moykul@gmail-dot-com
Let's strike while the iron's hot, so I can get an email to RACE in the next week. Sound good ?
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Include me in the email. I plan on racing Lightweight Production and 300 Production. My Name is Nam, I have a Ninja 300 with race fairings, going to get new tires, rearsets and the mandatory brake guard soon. My email address is nam_duong9 @ hotmail-dot-com
 
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