Where Have all The Dealerships Gone !?

BondJamesBond

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Wow..... I can't believe how far I have to travel to get to a motorcycle dealership. Where have they all gone? No wonder used bike prices are so high compared to new bikes. Ridiculous!

Argggg !

OK .... I feel better now :)
 
Wow..... I can't believe how far I have to travel to get to a motorcycle dealership. Where have they all gone? No wonder used bike prices are so high compared to new bikes. Ridiculous!

Argggg !

OK .... I feel better now :)

Say whaaaaa?
 
I remember growing up in Scarbororough in the Seventies and there were at least 8 new dealerships(Metro Cycle,Pit Shop,Sonic Moyocycles,Bar Hodgsons Superbike Centre,Snow City,Ontario Kawasaki,Dick's Sale's and Services,a 0Kawasaki dealership on Eglinton near Markham I can't remember the name of ).Snow City is the only one left that I can think of.
 
You can thank all the guys buying everything online. Dealers can't make a business selling only bikes, they need (like all businesses) repeat customers ie service, parts, accessories. It's definitely great to save $20 on a helmet, but how does your local dealer survive?
Unfortunately many riders don't care, until they pull into the parking lot and the dealer is gone.


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No, you can thanks the distributors and the manufacturers for setting prices too high. Just got a owm suzuki part and it was almost double the price in canada as compared to the usa .

In addition there are just less riders.....everybody just trying to make their next mortgage payment on their $600000 mortgage.
 
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I'd say when making purchases online it's a little more than 20 bucks on a lid. Some of the dealer pricing is outrageous. While I'm all for supporting them and buy as much as possible from them sometimes it's not worth the huge inflated cost. Example. I just got bar ends grips and a new alarm online for almost half the price of just the alarm at multiple local shops. When it comes to gear I'd never buy online though.
 
Exactly, accessories online, great deal. Go to buy your next bike, hey where's the dealer gone?


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That's not to say I haven't bought the majority of my stuff from local dealers but when you're talking several hundred dollars in difference, it is what it is I'm afraid.
 
I definitely get it, and (hate to say it) agree. Doesn't matter what you're buying, a few hundred dollars is a huge savings. I just don't like it. Don't even get me started on the whole honda powerhouse thing...


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You can thank all the guys buying everything online. Dealers can't make a business selling only bikes, they need (like all businesses) repeat customers ie service, parts, accessories. It's definitely great to save $20 on a helmet, but how does your local dealer survive?
Unfortunately many riders don't care, until they pull into the parking lot and the dealer is gone.


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Nonsense!

If that was the case gp bikes, royal distributing, pro6 etc would all have been out of business by now, but they're not.
People that understand business adapt to changes, people that don't close their business down complaining about the customers and why they couldn't make money.
 
Nonsense!

If that was the case gp bikes, royal distributing, pro6 etc would all have been out of business by now, but they're not.

While I agree they could still gouge everyone a little less and do even better. Sadly they won't and that's why accessories are tempting to buy elsewhere for less. If places like you mentioned were reasonable then a few dollars more would be worth it to most of us.
 
There has got to be a thousand different threads that start out complaining about a crappy dealer experience. Getting hosed at the parts and service department or shadey sales person etc.

It's rare to find a few with a great reputation.

No wonder there isn't much to chose from.
 
blame the manufactures they have decided that they will make huge$ in Canada by marking up stuff often 2 or 3 times the us price honestly if I don't need the part now I order it from the usa
 
Nonsense!

If that was the case gp bikes, royal distributing, pro6 etc would all have been out of business by now, but they're not.
People that understand business adapt to changes, people that don't close their business down complaining about the customers and why they couldn't make money.

And what did they do in order to "adapt" that others didn't?

I've read that the dealerships more likely to have survived the last 15 years or so, are the ones with premium brands, because those more likely to buy them are less affected by the financial set-backs we've seen, i.e. are better heeled than those attracted to other, less distinctive brands, and/or are more dedicated to the sport.

I also read, many years ago, when Cycle World West closed, (how long was that?!) that there were 2 major culprits: the industry itself, focused too much on higher and higher numbers, RR type bikes, and the insurance companies making it almost impossible for young riders/new riders to afford insurance. Interestingly, it seems the industry is reeling itself in lately, introducing more and more entry level, mild performance bikes; and the government is FINALLY, doing, or at least paying lip service to doing something about the stupid insurance rates in Ontario.

I wonder if that will bring the motorcycle business back to where it once was. I miss spending a Saturday, cruising the dealerships looking for deals. I for one don't mind paying a little more at a dealership in order to have personal service, as long as there's no sexy young women trying to sell me something. I'm not that ****ing stupid.
 
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Buy the bike online as well.

I like walking in to the dealer and saying " morning Todd, having a small problem with----, can you take a look?". I can just see shipping your bike back to the internet dealer for warranty or service work.


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Buy the bike online as well.

Happens more and more how. In the USA they will deliver for a reasonable fee too.

I agree there is a lot of markup. I had to mail order some stuff the other week. One of the items was the factory service manual for my bike. Cost $62.50 US online. In Canada probably $150 or they would have refused to sell it outright.

Suzuki dealer is not that close to where I live. Sometimes it's easier to just have pieces mailed to me rather than dealing with public transit or driving the car there and back.

I would be interested if parts departments would make it easy for me to select my items.

Some of the big American sites are great. You pick your bike and you are presented with an exploded diagram of all the parts and you select what you need.
 
Generally those US sites and the part numbers used are good for the dealers here to use as well, I just ordered parts for a Yamaha got all the part numbers off a US site emailed them to the Cdn dealership and was given a quote on the parts for cost and availability, this was also good on my Suzuki

What I don't like, is the fact everything you order is a special order and no returns, no refunds, no exchange, so if you screw it up your left holding the bag.....and too me that is not fair, everything is special order because the dealer ships don't carry stock anymore, it all comes from a warehouse, so it all becomes a special order....well that is just crap....

dont ask, I just went through a headache of having ordered something and now stuck with it....
 
I'd agree with what a few have already said; I have no trouble paying a bit extra for personal service and to support local shops (and we do still have a few good shops). That "bit extra" doesn't equal approaching and passing double the cost. I've seen what the distributors are selling many items to dealers for and genuinely believe that the blame falls solely on the distributors.
 
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