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boyoboy
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That's a damper on roaming on my overly thirsty bike....
Not sure where we are in Ontario ...that's a BC price..
US looks attractive.
1 Gal Us = 3.78 ltr ...that's $6.05 Cdn for a US Gallon...at the BC price.
versus
$3.46 Cdn at the US price.
the oil industry is punishing BC for not rolling out the red carpet and letting them bulldoze a pipeline to the west coast.
I believe the trudeau government announced they are going to build, own, and "rent out" the new proposed pipeline - simply to allow the pipeline to be built without the oil industry spending a penny or going through those pesky environmental assessments. Taxpayers will pick up the bill and then the government will sell it to the oil indusry at 25 cents on the dollar..... ty for your campaign donation.
bigpoppa
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Ford plans on having a little chat with them about that one
A chat about all the revenue they’re both collecting? I’m sure that’ll be a productive chat.
Here's a question, how is he going to drop the fuel price? Mandate the fuel companies to drop their price, or drop the tax on fuel? It's easy to say that he's going to do XYZ, putting it into practice is a different story.
There's also the matter that 10c a litre, while sounding good as a platform to his voters, amounts to almost zero functional difference in your pocket.
Mad Mike
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Canadian Oil companies operate like a cartel, the gov't doesn't interfere with their shenanigans... but they could. The competition bureau and Combines laws both prevent collusion and price fixing in all industries. Historically the feds did not react to cartel pricing as they were part of the cartel (Petrocan), they have never changed that policy.
In Ontario we pay the retailer about 20% more than New Yorkers do for gasoline - it's quite outrageous however there is little political incentive to question why Canadian retailers can justify such a massive premium.
Right now New Yorkers are paying $2.99/gal, after conversion to CAD and Liters AND accounting for the differences in taxes between the two gov'ts, is $1.12/l CAD.
It's also worth keeping in mind that oil companies are one of the most powerful lobbying groups out there, so it's not exactly easy to break up the party
The first time I ever got smacked with an ouch was a $45 fill up of the ST1100 in Australia when costs went to $1.75 oer litre. ( bloody beast held 28 litres ! ).
Thinking, is that $45 really worth just having a casual day cruising rural paved roads for fun and photographs?
Even now - the CBF1000 costs a chunk of change $25 to get 300 km. If I could find a farkled for touring CB500x I might consider downsizing as many report very high MPG. 60-70 mpg
70 lb lighter than my current ride, smaller tank but will go farther.
Honda UK lists 83 mpg but that's the larger Imperial gallon...still pretty spectacular.
Got to think about that for next year.
Real life test
Damn 500+ km on a fill up.
Thinking, is that $45 really worth just having a casual day cruising rural paved roads for fun and photographs?
Even now - the CBF1000 costs a chunk of change $25 to get 300 km. If I could find a farkled for touring CB500x I might consider downsizing as many report very high MPG. 60-70 mpg
70 lb lighter than my current ride, smaller tank but will go farther.
Honda UK lists 83 mpg but that's the larger Imperial gallon...still pretty spectacular.
Got to think about that for next year.
Real life test
https://www.visordown.com/features/motorcycle-top-10s/top-10-longest-range-bikes
Damn 500+ km on a fill up.
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J_F
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Taxes are something in the area of $0.35-$0.40 per litre of the cost of gas in Ontario right now, so don't place the blame solely on the oil companies. Ford is being either hypocritical claiming that he's gonna beat the oil companies into submission to lower their prices when the taxes the province he now runs is solely responsible for about 1/3 of the cost of every L sold here right now. Or he's just dumb and doesn't realize that fact yet.
Take the current level of taxation off our gas and suddenly we are much closer to the USA prices.
I'm not being an apologist for the oil companies, just stating facts.
Take the current level of taxation off our gas and suddenly we are much closer to the USA prices.
I'm not being an apologist for the oil companies, just stating facts.
maybe you haven't checked your gas costs lately
but yeah - average for the bike is 38 mpg.http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/cbf1000
I thought the plan was to cut the taxes, but not let the gas stations skim some of the difference, unlike what happened in the insurance reduction.
there's a reason smaller bikes and cars have been so popular in the rest of the world, just not North America and its not parking issues. When your wages just cover the cost of groceries and a grass hut, gas is a luxury.
We aren't there yet, but a grass hut will be a ***** to heat in the winter months.
We aren't there yet, but a grass hut will be a ***** to heat in the winter months.
Mad Mike
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Taxes in Ontario are $0.38 @ $1.00/l, and 0.43/l @ $1.40/l. Taxes in NY, which is about the most expensive in the nation are $0.25/l (CAD).
Today, July 2, the average retail price for gas (all in CAD) in Toronto is 0.88/l plus 0.42 tax, in Buffalo 0.79/l +0.243 tax. That represents a 12% retailer premium for Ontario residents. That is a hughe premium on a commodity item -- hard to explain why Oil companies are allowed to gouge that out of us.
J_F
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need to fully develop the oil sands
that'll take care of the need for winter heat
we'll be growing citrus in S. Ontario
Florida will be under water
He had a ton of (not really planned and uncosted) "plans" as a candidate that may not exactly mesh with reality now that it's time to enact them.
The province's coffers can't stand to lose the gas tax revenue at this point unless we are going to continue to just dig out debt hole deeper and deeper.
