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Oh I hear you.. Yamaha has been a real tease about it. The thing that gives me any hope that the bike will actually make it to production is that the "Concept" T7 has now been turned into a "Prototype" Tenere 700.

How about waiting to see what the new Yamaha Tenere 700 will look like? It is definitely impossible to have just one bike that is best in doing it all. I started with a KLR, then went to a wr250r to get more comfortable riding in the dirt. A Multistrada for long road tours and occasional...

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No right answer here. I ride in street gear on trips where it mostly involves paved roads with light gravel sections. Mostly because I'm usually with other street bikers during those rides and will probably be heading to a spot for a leisurely lunch and want to be comfortable. If the riding...

I have been through the same situation. What I can say is that for the requirements you have listed, you're certainly looking at the right bikes. However, if you really want to learn off-road riding, and will do lots of double tracks, even single tracks, anything more than gravel or packed...

Actually, a new one (2014+) may be worth buying to save you time and money in upgrading the suspension. Post 2014 models have revised springs and dampening that will make a stock KLR more capable off-road and more stable on road for north american sized riders. Search for 2014 new edition...

Membership is 125 for the year. Day pass is 25. All depends on if you like the trails in there to go more than a few times

We rode boundary road into the Ganaraska Forest last week. Not sure if everyone wants to get a day pass for the forest or not. If not, I'm completely open to new routes.

Try it and see. It's all about rider skills I suppose. For me, I need the confidence boost of better tires as I start to get used to riding the bike off road and in sand.

No, you're quite right. It didn't feel or sounded right. I ran the front 18 and back 20 this past weekend in the forest, and it seemed to be quite good. Could also be the new t63's starting to wear in.

No kidding! Here are a few pics☺

Thanks for leading the ride today, had fun.

I know the way to 115 going across on 7/Winchester /concession rd7 to be quite scenic and relaxing too as an alternative. By Sheppard and 401 did you mean near port union? That's the only location I see them intersect.

Right. I have no rim locks, and don't really know how low is too low for airing down.. Don't really get stranded by ripping off a valve stem in the trails. I've been running 17 front and 19 back on the klr, which I'd estimate to be over 460 lbs with the crash bars, centre stands and other...

I'd be happy to tag along if you're okay with an off road newb. Will you plan on taking back roads there or hoping in the 401?

What time are you thinking? I'm still very new at riding off road if you don't mind me slowing you down .

Thanks for that. I have been sticking mostly to the main trail roads because I was afraid of being stuck in one of the single tracks on with the big klr. Have been looking everywhere for something that looks like it's got more dirt etc rather than rocks and loose sand.

Thanks for those tips, I'll give that a try next. I'm usually starting out from the wilcox Road at west Forest

What were some of the tips he offered?

I slapped on a pair if t63s and am not sure if its just my riding skills, but I found it didn't make a whole lot of difference in deep sand. Probably will make more difference in the dirt though.