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Thanks for this. I'll check it out. You're right about supply and demand;)

Nice. One day;)

Ha. I don't know. I would've said your knees and balance point over the bike. But when you mention spinning rear wheel I'd say throttle. I'm fully prepared for a few bruises, sprains and broken bones.

I didn't know about D&J. Thank you.

Thanks. Yes Dorchester is a long way from me. I can get a car and a trailer on the odd occasion If I need to take the bike for a service call. But, Yes, Mission cycle is literally 10 minutes away.

Well, nothing beats first hand experience. Thanks for the heads up. And, yeah that makes sense to tilt the bars forward. All good stuff to know as a new rider I'm kinda going with the flow, and absorbing everything I can so appreciate you all dropping some knowledge for me;)

Ha. Great Pic. I didn't realize he was shorter in height;) Man, this is such a hard decision. The great thing about betas for me is that they are already an inch lower. It may not seem like much but in the context of a new rider it's a worthy difference;

Yeah I wasn't sure about "unofficial". Anyway, I plan on making a trip to Lang's and Mission Cycle in Angus. Either way, I for sure will need to get the KTM or Beta lowered, especially the KTM at my height. Thanks again all;)

Good to know. Yes, I will definitely be joining these organizations.

Yeah, I've heard or at least read both sides of this argument.

I really appreciate all the feedback. LOL. It's making me really think hard, too hard. I forgot to mention, the bike would be kept at my parents house near Creemore. So I don't know what kind of trails are close to there. I do know from the locals there are some smaller accessible unofficial...

Yes. I plan on taking a course for sure.

I keep my bikes up near Creemore. So that's where I ride.

Thank you. I think that's exactly what I needed to hear. I just want to learn the basics and get a strong foundation to build on. I'll 90% sold on the Xtrainer and maybe do some low budget fork mods like replace 5w oil with 15w. But of course, I'll default to what Lang's Off Road says.

Brain cramp 80% to 20% consensus;)

Yeah, i think the KTM's would be retain their value but Beta's wouldn't be too far behind. But, I have decided to lower it. It's less exhausting, and more confidence inspiring, especially to new riders. I think that seems to be the 80% to 30% consensus;)