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Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Will do, I am sure I have but shoot me the post# I should be looking at. I'll check it out.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Now for a way back throw back(06-25-2014)

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Sensible numbers must make some sense even to you Rob, regardless of the source. If these numbers do not make any sense, I highly encourage you to show otherwise.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. From hearing the news and reading this thread, I originally thought that this would have been Clayton's responsibility. I reserved comment until I went to the crash site myself. Once visiting the crash site and seeing for...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Your time and effort in the calculations are muchly appreciated. These represent the line of thinking many have had, but were unable to clearly communicate as you just did.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Excuse me? Any calculations are meaningless simply because we know Clay was speeding?

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Sure I can in this case.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Yup. Clay was speeding. Thanks for clarifying yet again. No one here is contesting the speed.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Thank you. In your mind would this "bone headed move" also be considered unreasonable?

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Couldn't agree more. Except whether or not the officer looked,saw the bike or not, the officer acted unreasonably regardless of the speed of the motorcycle. I once said in another post that if I was on the bike and not...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Some could be from the driver of the vehicle leaving marks acting unreasonably. I just wouldn't go as far so to say that is always or often the case.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. I believe you are also missing the context of the majority of posts on here, including your own.

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Alright you have used this or similar reference a few times now. Seriously? What does this have to do with anything? Yup if he had of been held up by one more red light during his long evening ride, he wouldn't have been...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Umm, you can spin things all you want, but someome had asked if the rider should have slowed down when seeing the officer. Yes, the rider absolutely did. And yes he was trying to slow down very quickly, sure call it a panic...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Yup. You bet. Rider was speeding, no doubt about it. More than one person's actions can contribute to a collision......

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. No. I wouldn't say. Any time I have chirped on the road, was in an attempt to avoid collision with a vehicle that acted unreasonably and caught me by suprise. Now any sideways rear end sliding I have done on the track or in...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. And what news article was this? Do you have proof that you actually read said news article? Or are you simply trying to create the illusion that you have read the news article and are using this to cover up your obvious lack...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Are you suggesting that leaving skid marks is not an indicator of an attempt to slow down?

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Really? I'm trying to create an illusion that the car was blocking the road? You can call it "across the road" or "blocking". Doesn't matter to me. We both understand what it means. I'm sure any other reasonable person would...

Re: Claton Rivert death and Questions Swirl around SIU investigation. Yup. I believe that would be a reasonable decision to make. The SIU release and the skid mark on the road indicate that's exactly what the rider did.