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Wondering what people's opinions on those 2 are..
how are they performance wise?
How do they compare to each other and their KTM /ducati/bmw competition?
 
bigpoppa said:
Wondering what people's opinions on those 2 are..
how are they performance wise?
How do they compare to each other and their KTM /ducati/bmw competition?
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As a commercial success, Ape/MG are also rans against KTM/BMW. Not sure where Duc fits it.

For looks, I am partial to Ape/MG but this is obviously personal and you can't see most of the bike when you're on it.

For noise, Ape and Duc sound more special.

If I was buying one for a round the world trip, it would be probably be KTM or BMW.

Exclusivity probably goes to the MG but you won't see many capos around either.

My best day on a Capo was 2300 km in 24 hours. I doubt that would be much different with the others.
 
ADV bikes are mostly biased either to the road (and in that section it's either more touring or sport oriented) or dirt depending on the model (and then again in different versions of that model) so you have to decide where you want your bike to be in that range. The big Ducati/KTM ADV's make 160+hp whereas the Stelvio is a 100hp and 125 for the Copo. Neither of the latter will feel nearly as sporty on the road as the former two and neither has the tech of them either.
The v4 of the Ape has never been known to be fuel efficient. The Copo version has a different tune but at rated 36mpg it's far less than my Ducati gets and my friends KTM ADV 1200 get similar mpg to mine.
I didn't buy the BMW as a test ride showed what most others have stated: big mile comfort, but big, heavy, boring and lifeless. It'll just get you to your destination, but the Ducati/KTM will get you there with a big smile on your face.
For where the Copo sits in the ADV range I think there's better similar options. The Triumph Tiger 1200 for example or KTM 1190S.
As for the Stelvio, all MG's have a distinct personality and people buy them not for the tech or quality of the bike, but for that personality. There's better bikes but none are the MG.
 
unless im mistaken, the capo is a v2
 
bigpoppa said:
unless im mistaken, the capo is a v2
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You are correct, if it had the V4 and more closely related to the tuono, they wouldve sold many times more.
 
Not necessarily better bikes, but the Capo is definitely great value these days. Fully loaded low-mile ones are generally around $10-11k, and even the 2015 bikes are bristling with gadgets and toys like semi-active suspension and self-adjusting preload. The only difference with new bikes is the lack of TFT dash. No idea about reliability, though...

Here's a decent breakdown from the always reliable MCN:

APRILIA CAPONORD 1200 (2013-on) Review, Specs & Prices
 
One thing to think about, if you care how your bike looks, is the sidebag mounts and how often you'll actually be using the bags. I haven't used my sidebags in over 2yrs now as my topbox holds two lids plus a days supply of stuff. Sidebags stay in the garage (less weight and wind resistance, and easier to get leg over) and the fact that without them on the bike I'm happy to not be looking at ugly metal mounting cages on the side like some bikes have.
Some guys leave all the bags on all the time which is fine but I tend to go at a spirited pace so I'm happy to leave them off when not required.
 
Hardwrkr13 said:
One thing to think about, if you care how your bike looks, is the sidebag mounts and how often you'll actually be using the bags. I haven't used my sidebags in over 2yrs now as my topbox holds two lids plus a days supply of stuff. Sidebags stay in the garage (less weight and wind resistance, and easier to get leg over) and the fact that without them on the bike I'm happy to not be looking at ugly metal mounting cages on the side like some bikes have.
Some guys leave all the bags on all the time which is fine but I tend to go at a spirited pace so I'm happy to leave them off when not required.
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I am normally side bags off too. If I need the extra space for work or if I'm on a trip they go on. Otherwise it is top only (or occasionally nothing if the ride will be at a very spirited pace as you can get past the happy speed of the top box).
 
Priller said:
Not necessarily better bikes, but the Capo is definitely great value these days. Fully loaded low-mile ones are generally around $10-11k, and even the 2015 bikes are bristling with gadgets and toys like semi-active suspension and self-adjusting preload. The only difference with new bikes is the lack of TFT dash. No idea about reliability, though...

Here's a decent breakdown from the always reliable MCN:

APRILIA CAPONORD 1200 (2013-on) Review, Specs & Prices
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funny in highlights it says 'V4 engine provides punch'.
Under engine: 'The 90 degree 1197cc V-twin is very similar to the engine used in Aprilia’s Dorsoduro...'

almost thought I remembered wrong for a sec.
 
killvino said:
funny in highlights it says 'V4 engine provides punch'.
Under engine: 'The 90 degree 1197cc V-twin is very similar to the engine used in Aprilia’s Dorsoduro...'

almost thought I remembered wrong for a sec.
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its a typo, if it was the tuono V4 I would have one by now
 
killvino said:
funny in highlights it says 'V4 engine provides punch'.
Under engine: 'The 90 degree 1197cc V-twin is very similar to the engine used in Aprilia’s Dorsoduro...'

almost thought I remembered wrong for a sec.
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Had exactly the same reaction...

While the V4 would be fun, I wouldn't want a touring bike where I was thrilled to get 200 km to reserve. From what I read, the Capo gets about 300 km to reserve, give or take depending on the usual factors. That's enough to put in solid days without range anxiety.

The new Multi V4 is of zero interest to me for the same reason. It may be incredible in every way, but if you can't tour easily without worrying about where the next open pump is, I'd rather have something sportier with a lower CofG...
 
Priller said:
Had exactly the same reaction...

While the V4 would be fun, I wouldn't want a touring bike where I was thrilled to get 200 km to reserve. From what I read, the Capo gets about 300 km to reserve, give or take depending on the usual factors. That's enough to put in solid days without range anxiety.

The new Multi V4 is of zero interest to me for the same reason. It may be incredible in every way, but if you can't tour easily without worrying about where the next open pump is, I'd rather have something sportier with a lower CofG...
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There's a lot to be said for long-travel suspension in a mile muncher. I still remember one corner on the east coast where on the exit there was a huge crack across the road. I figured I was gone and the suspension ate it like it was barely there.
 
Priller said:
Had exactly the same reaction...

While the V4 would be fun, I wouldn't want a touring bike where I was thrilled to get 200 km to reserve. From what I read, the Capo gets about 300 km to reserve, give or take depending on the usual factors. That's enough to put in solid days without range anxiety.

The new Multi V4 is of zero interest to me for the same reason. It may be incredible in every way, but if you can't tour easily without worrying about where the next open pump is, I'd rather have something sportier with a lower CofG...
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Let me know when you want to throw a leg over the XR. If you don’t walk away blown away by the handling I’ll buy you lunch.

I think your opinion needs an update. ?
 
Priller said:
Had exactly the same reaction...

While the V4 would be fun, I wouldn't want a touring bike where I was thrilled to get 200 km to reserve. From what I read, the Capo gets about 300 km to reserve, give or take depending on the usual factors. That's enough to put in solid days without range anxiety.

The new Multi V4 is of zero interest to me for the same reason. It may be incredible in every way, but if you can't tour easily without worrying about where the next open pump is, I'd rather have something sportier with a lower CofG...
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premium gas requirement is a worry out in the sticks as well.

Yup, I agree on lower bikes. Not on this whole ADV trend, could just be that I'm a shorter dude but none of my touring ever goes offroad enough to warrant the clearance needed, i've been caught on dirt/gravel roads by accident on tours on an SS and while not enjoyable, I got through to where I needed to go with no issues.

Need more just plain sportier tourers, the new regular tuono is headed in the right direction for me, just needs a bigger tank.
ADVs = the SUVs of the bike world. change my mind
 
killvino said:
premium gas requirement is a worry out in the sticks as well.

Yup, I agree on lower bikes. Not on this whole ADV trend, could just be that I'm a shorter dude but none of my touring ever goes offroad enough to warrant the clearance needed, i've been caught on dirt/gravel roads by accident on tours on an SS and while not enjoyable, I got through to where I needed to go with no issues.

Need more just plain sportier tourers, the new regular tuono is headed in the right direction for me, just needs a bigger tank.
ADVs = the SUVs of the bike world. change my mind
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If you're worried about the height of ADV bikes there's a simple solution.....eat until you are over 300 lbs and suddenly the bike can be flatfooted!

Actually, I'm not that tall (5'9) and not that heavy (200lbs ish) and I prefer my seat height on my KTM at the high position as my legs are less bent sitting that way. Can still manage the bike fine. I've only had one tip over on my bike so far and that was because I was braking heavy on deep gravel.
 
GreyGhost said:
I would say more like the trackhawk/srt8 for the big adv's. Can easily be beaten by a proper sports car but will put most generic vehicles to shame.
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multistrada and KTM are the trackhawk and X5m type. GS, Capos, vstroms are the generic everyday SUVs

jc100 said:
If you're worried about the height of ADV bikes there's a simple solution.....eat until you are over 300 lbs and suddenly the bike can be flatfooted!

Actually, I'm not that tall (5'9) and not that heavy (200lbs ish) and I prefer my seat height on my KTM at the high position as my legs are less bent sitting that way. Can still manage the bike fine. I've only had one tip over on my bike so far and that was because I was braking heavy on deep gravel.
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you have longer legs than I, never had a tip over due to height. to me the shuffling around on the seat just to get a foot down at lights gets old fast.
300 lbs at 5'3 I could probably roll to places faster though.
 
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