Long term and reliable SS bikes

How does a slipper clutch make up for ABS?

The only time I've ever needed ABS is on ice. I suppose if I ever crash from locking the brakes or flip the bike I'll regret these words lol

On the other hand, the slipper clutch makes up for my less than perfect shifts which were damn obvious on the R6 or CBR600RR, making commutes very comfy. I've also accidentally gone from 2nd to 1st without thinking once at the wrong rev and the rear just fishtailed a little. Another frd did the same on a different day and low sided.
 
油井緋色;2120035 said:
The only time I've ever needed ABS is on ice. I suppose if I ever crash from locking the brakes or flip the bike I'll regret these words lol

On the other hand, the slipper clutch makes up for my less than perfect shifts which were damn obvious on the R6 or CBR600RR, making commutes very comfy. I've also accidentally gone from 2nd to 1st without thinking once at the wrong rev and the rear just fishtailed a little. Another frd did the same on a different day and low sided.

Doesn't your bike have a gear indicator?

Op get a 07+cbr600 and call it a day.
 
if only gsxr had abs....
A lot of people have done well without it, not sure why that is a deal breaker - But meh, to each its own
 
Doesn't your bike have a gear indicator?

Op get a 07+cbr600 and call it a day.

Yes. Long day + brain farts != good riding.
 
油井緋色;2120035 said:
The only time I've ever needed ABS is on ice. I suppose if I ever crash from locking the brakes or flip the bike I'll regret these words lol

On the other hand, the slipper clutch makes up for my less than perfect shifts which were damn obvious on the R6 or CBR600RR, making commutes very comfy. I've also accidentally gone from 2nd to 1st without thinking once at the wrong rev and the rear just fishtailed a little. Another frd did the same on a different day and low sided.
What r6 did you ride? 06+ have slippers.
 
False sense of security.

Since superbike schools have started using ABS, the number of crashes has dropped dramatically. ABS makes no difference to braking unless you are going to lock the wheel.
With the data coming in on ABS bikes, either Ontario or insurance companies will mandate them, they are already required in the EEU.
No one can stop safer than an ABS bike. That's what happens when smart people work on motorcycles.
 
Since superbike schools have started using ABS, the number of crashes has dropped dramatically. ABS makes no difference to braking unless you are going to lock the wheel.
With the data coming in on ABS bikes, either Ontario or insurance companies will mandate them, they are already required in the EEU.
No one can stop safer than an ABS bike. That's what happens when smart people work on motorcycles.

Do you have data to back that up that is was just ABS that dropped the numbers dramatically?

I was under the impression that the BMW's with the combination of ABS, traction control and power modes helped reduced their numbers. Not just ABS.
 
Did you even read what you posted?

Jay asked if you had statistics about ABS alone, not bikes that have ABS and Traction Control - You can not compare the technology on a 600 compared to one of the most tech advanced motorcycles ever build, the suspension alone will eliminate many accidents.

They went from 600s to the new BMW S1000.

This is the most relevant part of your link and it does not support your claims

Here are the results. Compared to the 600s we’ve used for the past 30 years; 12 million miles of track training; over 125,000 students; at 106 tracks around the world…our crash ratio has reduced by 400%. In real world numbers it looks like this: Last year we had 1.2 crashes per per school day average. This year so far, it’s down to a very convincing 0.3 per day.
 
油井緋色;2120035 said:
The only time I've ever needed ABS is on ice. I suppose if I ever crash from locking the brakes or flip the bike I'll regret these words lol

On the other hand, the slipper clutch makes up for my less than perfect shifts which were damn obvious on the R6 or CBR600RR, making commutes very comfy. I've also accidentally gone from 2nd to 1st without thinking once at the wrong rev and the rear just fishtailed a little. Another frd did the same on a different day and low sided.

U dont know how to downshift properly but you are much more proficeint at braking?
 

From your own link "Part of the reason for the decreased fatal crash rate for ABS-equipped motorcycles may be that older, more mature or more experienced riders ride motorcycles equipped with anti-lock braking systems."

Combine that with the fact that many or most of these motorcycles also have other electronic devices that can reduce the crash rate and They just don't know.

I would say that TC would be more relevant to reducing the accidents percentage than ABS
 
What r6 did you ride? 06+ have slippers.

I didn't know that. It was an older one...when the Rs looked cartoony.

U dont know how to downshift properly but you are much more proficeint at braking?

Have you ridden a bike with a slipper? Or are you judging me from the fact that I posted one mistake?
 
600RR if you want something modern-looking but it's hard to beat a F4i for comfort among fuel injected SS's.
Honda has the best reputation for reliability but I haven't really heard of any consistently major issues with other manufacturers either. I'm sure you'll be fine with any Japanese SS.
 
600RR if you want something modern-looking but it's hard to beat a F4i for comfort among fuel injected SS's.
Honda has the best reputation for reliability but I haven't really heard of any consistently major issues with other manufacturers either. I'm sure you'll be fine with any Japanese SS.

+1 on the f4i for comfort and reliability.
There is a good reason it is the #1 stuntbike.
I got mine with 14K on it and sold it at 77K without a problem.
It was down, been through rain storms that I pass cars parked under bridges and was the most comfortable SS I have ridden (put 1100kms on in one day).
Bad side, its an old bugger these days.

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