Doggy 2ups???

[natlat]

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As for the OP dog, and in no way am I saying it's ok but just practice it.

A few things to consider:
1. How likely is she to be distracted by other things? I'm guessing theres no traffic or other people around but what about if she sees a cat or a squirrel...

2. You need to find the safest and most secure position for him/her. I used to work with a pit cross and she loved piggy backs. I would hold the back of her hind legs and she would hook her front paws over my shoulder. She had such a grip, no one was able to pull her off. Even if you pulled at her collar, the only way she was going down is if I went with her. She knew when to hang on tighter and when she can relax a little (i used to run with her). They can feel you tense up before you do.

3. Practice practice practice and for the love of god please do this in a controlled environment ie parking lots.

It's amazing what these fantastic animals can do, but like everything, there is always a risk. Please be careful.

Depending on her size and your comfort you might want to try and see if she will sit on seat with her bum, have her hang out the back legs beside you (I'm sure someone can figure out a harness for her back legs to rest in if she takes to this) and her paws hooked over your shoulders. (like a piggy back).

It's like having a backpack on.

Having her just sit back there like she was sitting on some steps is not going to work. Any abrupt movement will send her flying (like a dog in a car), there is no room for her to adjust her footing.

Work on trying to give her piggy backs.

 

[canukgirl77]

^^^ OK thats just plain crazy too. What happens when the dog shifts its weight in a corner, and is clutching itself onto the 16 year old, inexperienced rider OP? You can't compare a living, breathing, thinking, potentially spooky dog to having a backpack on, on a motorized vehicle. Why endanger the dog, the rider, the surrounding motorists who will potentially have to swerve to avoid a dog bouncing down the highway (if not smashing into their windshield)? Because it's cute? Because the dog, like, just loves it sooooo much?

Jebus.

 

[Maverick95]

^^^ OK thats just plain crazy too. What happens when the dog shifts its weight in a corner, and is clutching itself onto the 16 year old, inexperienced rider OP? You can't compare a living, breathing, thinking, potentially spooky dog to having a backpack on, on a motorized vehicle. Why endanger the dog, the rider, the surrounding motorists who will potentially have to swerve to avoid a dog bouncing down the highway (if not smashing into their windshield)? Because it's cute? Because the dog, like, just loves it sooooo much?

Jebus.

Ok obviously i see you have a problem with me being only 16, but i am NOT inexperienced. Riding off-road with loads if other dirtbikes flying by you is not much different than street when you look at the whole concept of riding. Now don't start going on about how the street has other traffic, etc...cuz i know, riding since i was 8 does not make me inexperienced. Ask anyone i've ridden with and everyone had to ask a couple time to believe my age, and the liscense i held. I would ride beside cops at night with an M1 and they'd just wave (thats another story lol). I had my friends dog, who he taught to ride on the back of his XR. The XR (for those that don't know) are way higher up and have a narrower and smaller seat than any sportbike i've seen. And this dog was way bigger than mine.

Natlat, you are describing pretty much exactly what my dog does now. The purpose of this post was to ask for help in making it more secure for her. Many of you are assuming i take her into traffic like the pics. No i would never do that. But even if i did and for those that do, it would be the same as taking a small child. The child could easily lose balance and slip off or even lose grip in a quick slip of the rist on the throttle and slip off the tail. We've heard of it happening with much older, larger people! RECENTLY!

 

[canukgirl77]

FTR I have no issue with your age. It just means you can't possibly have a full M license, therefore are inexperienced riding on the street. You said you don't even know what caused you to go down when you did a while back, and you're nervous in corners now. Riding beside a cop with an M1 at night just means you're cool with disregarding the law at times, it doesn't mean the cop looked at you and said "hey, look at the awesome, skilled rider!"

My issue is that you're endangering lives by riding with a dog on the back of your bike on a public roadway.

Oh- and the difference between a child and a dog? A child has feet that can rest on the rear pegs and help support it on the bike, which is the minimum legal requirement to put a kid on a bike. Can your dog reach the pegs?

I know none of this will sink in, so I just hope my car isn't the one off of which your dog is going to bounce. And if you do, god forbid, cause an accident due to the dog on the back, you can and will be charged for a criminal offence.

 

[stevex]

Natlat, you are describing pretty much exactly what my dog does now. The purpose of this post was to ask for help in making it more secure for her. Many of you are assuming i take her into traffic like the pics. No i would never do that. But even if i did and for those that do, it would be the same as taking a small child. The child could easily lose balance and slip off or even lose grip in a quick slip of the rist on the throttle and slip off the tail. We've heard of it happening with much older, larger people! RECENTLY!

Lol, you're comparing a human child to a dog?

big sigh

 

[Prince]

You need a slap in the head!

 

[Griffin]

Natlat, you are describing pretty much exactly what my dog does now. The purpose of this post was to ask for help in making it more secure for her. Many of you are assuming i take her into traffic like the pics. No i would never do that. But even if i did and for those that do, it would be the same as taking a small child. The child could easily lose balance and slip off or even lose grip in a quick slip of the rist on the throttle and slip off the tail. We've heard of it happening with much older, larger people! RECENTLY!

If the passenger can't anticipate actions the bike is likely to take and can't hold on properly, including reaching the pegs, and isn't wearing adequate protective gear, the passenger should not be on the bike - regardless of the age or species of the passenger. Small children and large dogs should not ride motorcycles.

 

[sinbin]

Op, I think the sidecar is the only safe method for the dog. The animal has no protective gear etc, and if it falls, there is a large spinning object directly beneath that could mangle your beloved pooch, not to mentoin the surrounding traffic etc..you don;t hve to go very fast to risk the animal's life. I'm not sure if you;ve had to conduct any maneauvers to avoid idiots on the road with the dog on the back. Seeing as it's sole point of support are your shoulders where do you think the animal will end up if you have swerve to miss Grandma in her lincoln? Or speed up to avoid being rear ended? What about having to lean in a corner a little harder, what if the animal loses it's grip? Can you picture the poor thing rolling down on asphalt while you pray nothing runs over it? It's a stark picture, but seriously why put your pet on the bike? I think it's too much of a risk and riding around the driveway may be ok, but not on the street. IT's not your ability to handle it that people are questioning, it's the unknown. It's all fun aand games until someone loses an eye .....

Having said all that, if you do decide to do it anyways, the only way to allow this is with some sort of harness which straps the pooch to your back, securely. Even then, know that if you go down, the animal will probably suffer grevious injuries, while you slide along using her as a back protector.

 

[daveyflakes]

All i have to do is tap the rear seat and she jumps up and sits. She absolutly loves it (how can you not love a motorcycle despite your species???)

Are you sure she loves it? Perhaps your dog is just very obedient, well trained, or devoted to you. Think about it this way; would you let a small child squat on the back of your bike while you go around the block? Would the child's parent let their child do this?

Anyway, to offer and answer to your original question... Maybe you can strap a cargo net over your dog to secure her to the seat :snorting:

 

[Griffin]

Are you sure she loves it? Perhaps your dog is just very obedient, well trained, or devoted to you. Think about it this way; would you let a small child squat on the back of your bike while you go around the block? Would the child's parent let their child do this?

... with no helmet and no gear?

 

[natlat]

^^^ OK thats just plain crazy too. What happens when the dog shifts its weight in a corner, and is clutching itself onto the 16 year old, inexperienced rider OP? You can't compare a living, breathing, thinking, potentially spooky dog to having a backpack on, on a motorized vehicle. Why endanger the dog, the rider, the surrounding motorists who will potentially have to swerve to avoid a dog bouncing down the highway (if not smashing into their windshield)? Because it's cute? Because the dog, like, just loves it sooooo much?

Jebus.

Huh??? Who said anything about highways? I don't recall the OP saying they where going to fly across the 401 with the dog on their seat. If thats the case, please DON'T DO IT!!!! That is absolutely crazy!!!

As for what happens around a corner, during breaking, acceleration, etc... Well... There are a million things that can happen. I would think their goal is to be able to do it safely and skillfully.

If done properly, there Is very little risk to both the dog and person. With that said, I would hope the OP would recognize the dangers involved and there is a very good possibility this will not work out to their expectations.

As for the child argument and it's safety and people Are crazy to put a child on a bike....

You are all hypocrites!!!

Scenario

ME

I take my child on a motorcycle ride. She is 28 months old.

I would select a private road with absolutely no access to any other public vehicle with no obstructions a long the sides (ie Forrest, building, etc..) and The surface on which i would be traveling on is free of any hazards. I would make sure the bike on which we would be traveling on is in perfect working order. I would use a bike with a very low db level fort the safety of the Childs hearing.

Then i would create/ modify a back pack (you all know the ones I'm talking about... we've seen parents at the park with these), re-enforce it, get her a helmet, ear plugs if need be...

Then when she is safely secured to me, I would mount the bike and slowly ride.


YOU

You pick up your 28 month old child after a long days work. You strap her into the car seat and make your 40 minute commute home.

Which child is at a greater risk of being hurt?

 

[daveyflakes]

As for the child argument and it's safety and people Are crazy to put a child on a bike....

You are all hypocrites!!!

Scenario

ME

I take my child on a motorcycle ride. She is 28 months old.

I would select a private road with absolutely no access to any other public vehicle with no obstructions a long the sides (ie Forrest, building, etc..) and The surface on which i would be traveling on is free of any hazards. I would make sure the bike on which we would be traveling on is in perfect working order. I would use a bike with a very low db level fort the safety of the Childs hearing.

Then i would create/ modify a back pack (you all know the ones I'm talking about... we've seen parents at the park with these), re-enforce it, get her a helmet, ear plugs if need be...

Then when she is safely secured to me, I would mount the bike and slowly ride.


YOU

You pick up your 28 month old child after a long days work. You strap her into the car seat and make your 40 minute commute home.

Which child is at a greater risk of being hurt?

Natlat, I can understand what you're trying to say with this argument. But the two scenarios are simply not comparable. You're comparing YOU taking your baby on a joy ride for recreation vs. EVERYBODY else taking their baby home out of necessity.

Hell, we might as well just teleport our babies home for the safety of all babies.

 

[Maverick95]

Okay many of you are still on about the danger of a dog on a bike in traffic, etc. READ MY POSTS! Did i ever say i was taking her on the hwy? Did i ever say i was taking her into traffic? NO. I'm sure that i said it was up north (far up north) on trafficless roads doing low speeds. Honestly people, this was not meant to be an argument, this was meant to ask for help. If you can't offer help on ideas about securing her more safely, don't post. I have my answers regardless so there is no use in posting anymore.

 

[Maverick95]

FTR I have no issue with your age. It just means you can't possibly have a full M license, therefore are inexperienced riding on the street.

This is completely false. There are MANY riders out there who do not have a full M liscense yet they have been riding street for over 10 years. I plan on possessing an M2 for a few years rather than getting my full liscense because it is a waste of my money and time to get my full liscense right now when the only restriction is alcohol in the blood. Having only an M2 does not mean you are inexperienced.

 

[natlat]

Natlat, I can understand what you're trying to say with this argument. But the two scenarios are simply not comparable. You're comparing YOU taking your baby on a joy ride for recreation vs. EVERYBODY else taking their baby home out of necessity.

Hell, we might as well just teleport our babies home for the safety of all babies.

My point exactly!!! Someone states they want to put their child, a dog, a chipmunk... On their bike and asks if it's possible, what's the safest way do it, and all of a sudden you have a bunch of people claiming not to do it, it's inhuman, children can't hold on at 140km on the highway, dogs will die if you go into turn 4 to hot... Blah blah blah.

Taking a 28 month old child on public roadways is stupid, so is having a 40lbs dog on your back across the 403 at 140km.

All I was saying is that it is possible to take a baby and even a dog on a ride without sacrificing their safety, the rider, the passenger, or anyone else... Just be smart about it.

 

[Amazon]

you seem to have enough trouble getting yoruself around a corner, why would you want to throw an extra unstable 40lbs+ on the back seat. Riding dirt for years does not give you the "experienced" road skills you think you magically acquired. I rode dirt just as long if not longer then you, and all it really teaches you is throttle control and how a bike work, the turning is completely different as well as handling.

if you don't want a side car you could always get a trailer for your bike, but putting it on the back seat where it only has you for support is dumb.

Highways are mostly 80kms/hr, the 400 series is considered freeway, where it's 100km/hr.

 

[Cat13]

Message Rotten Ronnie and see what he does.... his dog goes everywhere with him

 

[chimera]

This is completely false. There are MANY riders out there who do not have a full M liscense yet they have been riding street for over 10 years. I plan on possessing an M2 for a few years rather than getting my full liscense because it is a waste of my money and time to get my full liscense right now when the only restriction is alcohol in the blood. Having only an M2 does not mean you are inexperienced.

FYI the M2 exit at the drive test center is only $75 not that much money to get the full license IMO. I read that you don't care to, but why not get it when you're eligible to? Then you don't have to keep re-doing the M1 exit which isn't free and you'll have to pay for over and over and then eventually pay to do the M2 exit anyway. (and that sounds like a 'waste of money')

As for the dog issue, it's your dog, your bike and your life, I would only have an issue when it could potentially cause harm to anyone else on the roads, so IMO keep it off public roads.

 

[Maverick95]

An M2 is good for 5 years then u either do it again or upgrade.

And as i've said, i never said i was going to take her on traffic roads with me or do highspeeds etc. Everyone keeps assuming i'm taking her on hwys and into traffic...

FYI the M2 exit at the drive test center is only $75 not that much money to get the full license IMO. I read that you don't care to, but why not get it when you're eligible to? Then you don't have to keep re-doing the M1 exit which isn't free and you'll have to pay for over and over and then eventually pay to do the M2 exit anyway. (and that sounds like a 'waste of money')

As for the dog issue, it's your dog, your bike and your life, I would only have an issue when it could potentially cause harm to anyone else on the roads, so IMO keep it off public roads.

 

[chimera]

An M2 is good for 5 years then u either do it again or upgrade.

And as i've said, i never said i was going to take her on traffic roads with me or do highspeeds etc. Everyone keeps assuming i'm taking her on hwys and into traffic...

Just saying, why keep the M2 longer than required? If you or anyone is already an 'experienced' rider then get it as soon as you can, besides you didn't waste anytime getting your M1

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