kiwi
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wow, definitely eye opening.. (I've read some of this thread - not all of it) - Do you have any links to articles etc for a noob to learn about EV's that are available in Canada ? thanks in advance
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wow, definitely eye opening.. (I've read some of this thread - not all of it) - Do you have any links to articles etc for a noob to learn about EV's that are available in Canada ? thanks in advance
I've been tracking the transition for years now and even I'm shocked at the speed of change and glad to see owners with real world experience.
This might be useful
https://www.plugndrive.ca/ev-owners-club-of-canada/
current list of vehicles
https://www.fleetcarma.com/electric-vehicles-currently-available-in-canada/
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ev5d8w/its-way-too-hard-to-buy-an-electric-car-in-canada
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-rebate.shtml
This might be useful
https://www.plugndrive.ca/ev-owners-club-of-canada/
current list of vehicles
https://www.fleetcarma.com/electric-vehicles-currently-available-in-canada/
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ev5d8w/its-way-too-hard-to-buy-an-electric-car-in-canada
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-rebate.shtml
http://www.timetoelectrify.ca/
https://www.plugndrive.ca/electric-vehicle-discovery-centre/
Probably, not bad places to start. The second one should have some demos available, but not all of them. If you want one some real world experience, I am sure you can PM some of us who post in the other EV thread and we would be more than willing to meet up so you can ask anything from real world experience or try it.
There's a "EV Discovery Centre" in Toronto (Just google it) where you can go and get all sorts of good information, as well as actually drive a variety of them, including the Volt and Bolt, the BMW i3, and a few others.. Our experience there was a bit hit and miss (you can read about it in my "Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle" thread (this reply, specifically) but I think it was just because of the holidays, some bad weather, and basically...an unfortunate series of events. I'm sure so long as you don't go in a snowstorm your experience would be better.
Anyhow, that thread in general has TONS of information, the problem is that it's kind of got massive - over 100 pages and 2000 replies now. I started it when I was just contemplating an EV last March, and I continue to post my updates to this day, now owning 2 of them. At least 4 or 5 others in the thread (I've kind of lost track!) also went out and bought EV's after following my story an think pretty much everyone is really enjoying them.
Anyone interested, pop into that thread and maybe read the last 10 pages or so if nothing else - I recognize that reading all 100 pages isn't going to be viable for most people unless you're REALLY bored today.
Post up any questions there and those of us who actually OWN EV's will be happy to respond with factual answers.http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?200745-Any-GTAM-ers-own-an-electric-vehicle
Right now on my current tank of fuel on my Volt I'm over 700KM and have used 2.1L of gas and <$10 in electricity. That's 0.3L/100KM, or 784MPG. Electricity is 1/8'th to 1/6'th the equivalent cost of gas, and what little you may use on something like a Volt for trips outside it's range still yields stellar overall averages. On a pure EV like the Bolt, assuming it works for your range needs and the numbers make financial sense, you're laughing all the way to the bank.
For anyone interested in actually experiencing an EV in the real world, check out the EV discover centre...or join us in the other thread and I'll extend an invite there to any GTAM member who wants to actually come experience an EV - come drive mine. Just PM me.
Instead of listening to all the garbage rhetoric online from others who don't actually have any real world experience (and often, few facts), come check one out from someone who actually owns 2 of them and has lots of actual facts.
I'm out between Oshawa and Bowmanville so I realize I'm not in the most convenient location for everyone, but the offer is out there.
Instead of listening to all the garbage rhetoric online from others who don't actually have any real world experience (and often, few facts), come check one out from someone who actually owns 2 of them and has lots of actual facts.
I'm out between Oshawa and Bowmanville so I realize I'm not in the most convenient location for everyone, but the offer is out there.
They aren't my prediction. I'm just a software developer. The guys who I work with go to fancy expensive meetings half way across the world where world leaders meet up and talk about this stuff. Vehicles aren't the only things being pushed to change but its the only factor relevant to this site.
I do actually want an EV, especially due to working in the energy management field. At the same time, I live in a condo....and we have no charging stations. The **** do I do? lol
I mean I can always move to one that does...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/condo-electric-car-hydro-ottawa-1.4226606
Guess I'm not buying one yet because condo owners/board is ****ing retarded. In fact, I'm gonna ask my board owner and if he replies back with what I think he will, I'll link in that article + a few others, and call him a retard.
EDIT EDIT: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/electric-vehicle-condo-legislation-ontario-1.4381969
Oh look the policies are already in play. Now I can contact the guy and yell at him even though I don't have an EV yet lol
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油井緋色;2542707 said:
Every parking garage has receptacles...somewhere. Look long and hard enough and you'll find them. Even if you only get a standard Level 1 charger you can still fully charge a Volt in 8 hours.
Yes, you'd probably need to make an arrangement with the condo board obviously, but arm yourself with the facts on the actual costs to charge (Kilowatts needed per charge, times the rates) and see what happens. If you have a forward thinking management, you never know. It's only a matter of time before they're going to have to do *something* anyways so far as charging infrastructure - the reality is we are currently on the event horizon of mass EV adoption.
The articles I linked said that condo laws have already been updated/live as of January 2018.
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/98c19#BK211
It states all condos are required to have no less than 20% of parking spaces to be EV charging capable. All parking spots should be available for retrofit when necessary.
I've got my list of swear words and insults ready for the condo board dude. He's been a jackass long enough throwing rules around. Revenge is gonna be amazing!
No, and thank ****ing God I'm not. After the amount of **** my landlord has to deal with, I've felt sorry enough for him that I'll cover his ***.
Riceburner
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油井緋色;2542723 said:
油井緋色;2542728 said:
I take it your landlord and the condo board dude are different ppl? 2 different living spaces you're dealing with?
Yes, same living space though.
Landlord we just pay rent to and make sure to treat his place nicely.
Condo board dude (aka senior property manager with a stick shoved so far up his *** he's giving a reverse blow job) is the guy giving the landlord troubles when he wants some rules enforced. Except the jackass only enforces rules that makes or saves him money, not the ones like "guy upstairs has a dog that never stops barking even though this is a no pet building."
油井緋色;2542723 said:
Where does it state that? If there's any 20% mention, I am pretty sure it refers to NEW buildings, not existing ones ... otherwise, it's not enforceable without writing a cheque to existing condo places to cover all kinds of costs. I cannot see how this would work ....
油井緋色;2542723 said:
Interesting..but where you you find the wording that mentions that? I searched a bunch of common terms and don't see it anywhere.
I know there was *discussion* about it late last year, but just that - only discussion.
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I'd not be bragging on that
https://daily.jstor.org/why-economists-make-terrible-fortunetellers/
and wow - they missed the 2008 meltdown...
What actually happened in 2017??
EV adoption is coming in a massive accelerating wave.
Our next tech step is figuring out how to pull existing CO2 out.
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https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/r17139
Found it. Laws are not my forte as there's lots of people ******** and terms. Is this active or is it garbage I found?
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