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Anyone into gardening here?

Another 9 cucumbers picked fresh from the garden today. Looks like good production this year for me. I hope you all are getting some. Lovely with some olive oil, salt and ground pepper.
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Peas have done much of their thing. A good year for pea production. I'm planting some more and we'll see how it goes.

Cheers!
 
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Still none for me.
9 or 10 zucchini though

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been eating some cukes, cherry tomatoes, carrots, beans and peas from my all organic garden. found something really cool on my cherry tomatoes. big giant caterpillars eating the leaves AND tomatoes. found 4 on one group of plants. probably ate 10-15% of the foilage. the largest one is about 3" or more long and 3/8" (10mm?) in diameter. studying them a bit and their huge. big piles of poop piling up below them. I think from how they look they might be (im almost sure)
becoming praying mantis'. I could be wrong- Ive only seen 2 praying mantis' in my life. the colour and their size is ... really think they are. so cool. leaving them alone - we have plenty of tomatoes. just so cool to watch. going to try and learn how to put a pic on the computer..
 
Mantis don't have a caterpillar stage. They are nymphs from the egg.
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Yours look like this? Hornworms
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Mantis don't have a caterpillar stage. They are nymphs from the egg.
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Yours look like this? Hornworms
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were you in my back yard ? looks like the pic, but I didn't notice any horns like this one. or the diagonal stripes. but the feet look identical.
but im older, I'll look again tomorrow, but I think you got it. I often medicate when Im in the garden.....lol
 
What do you guys suggest for removing weeds?

I have what looks like wild parsnip in the back yard

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Elbow grease if you want natural.

Otherwise befriend a farmer. They gotz the good ****
 
The garden is producing lots every day now. This was part of a daily picking; fresh cherry tomatoes (two varieties) and a blonde martini cucumber fresh picked from the garden.:agave:
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The cherry tomatoes are off-the-hook amazing. I have 4 different varieties. Let me share some advice. The sun sugar variety cherry tomatoes are next level :agave::agave:. Incredible. I cannot say enough good things about them. Definitely plant some and try it!


There's lots of love for sun sugar variety cherry tomatoes.
http://ourstoneyacres.com/growing-guide-sun-sugar-tomatoes
https://www.ufseeds.com/product/sunsugar-tomato-seeds/
https://www.totallytomato.com/P/00711/Sunsugar+Hybrid+Tomato
[video=youtube;Bc_1uUz2SvU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc_1uUz2SvU[/video]

Cheers!
 
It still amazes me the wealth of information and knowledge in this thread.
Thank you to all who have been contributing.
All I know about varieties of tomatoes are cherry, beefsteak and plum/ roma lol.
It's whatever my dad plants.
Finally pulled this from the garden today.....
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Elbow grease if you want natural.

Otherwise befriend a farmer. They gotz the good ****
Monsatan, er monsanto ordered to pay 298 million dollars in cali court cancer causing lawsuit . Yup, this is the stuff you can buy at garden stores. the farmers get an even stronger more concentrated form of this poison. farmers around the world use this cancer causing product by the 100's of thousands of pounds every year on OUR food crops. It enters our natural water bodies through groundwater and run off. This product is very persistent and it can take decades, even centuries, for this poisonous chemical compound to completely break down.

monsatan vows to appeal the case and says its scientest's have found no connection to cancer. Sounds like the same corporate scientests who once publicly claimed that there was no connection to smoking cigarettes and cancer. scientest's bought and paid for to lie and skewer data. Again. Monsanto (Bayer corp.) is a monster.

Currently there are 5000 more lawsuits awaiting trial against monsanto for their round up product. think people.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rlds-first-roundup-cancer-trial-idUSKBN1KV2HB
 
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No. Glyphosate is not considered a carcinogen by all the best-established science-based evaluation programs in the world, except IARC. Toxicology is my bag and the overall weight of evidence at this time is against glyphosate being a carcinogen. IARC's determination is bizarre and has engendered a lot of backlash. It has become a major news issue in science circles. IARC moved the goalposts on its glyphosate review. Some reporters have dug into the IARC evaluation and have found some very very troubling things.

People can read and decide for themselves.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/who-iarc-glyphosate/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykabat/2017/10/23/iarcs-glyphosate-gate-scandal/#39fdbe1abd1b
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffr...-change-in-the-agencys-behavior/#5abb0634c37d
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...ce-iarc-supporters-monsanto-papers-narrative/

That court case is taking place in the middle of all of this and the courtroom is where lawyering can be a great influence on understanding complex science. It isn't finished and more will come from this for sure.

IARC is also known for having classified coffee as a carcinogen. IARC links lots of things with cancer including alcohol, processed foods, pickling, salt cured meats/fish, sugar, hot drinks and the sun. There are many more cancer sources of higher concern.
 
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Looks like I'll be eating tomato salad for a while....
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No. Glyphosate is not considered a carcinogen by all the best-established science-based evaluation programs in the world, except WHO. Toxicology is my bag and the overall weight of evidence at this time is against glyphosate being a carcinogen. WHO's determination is bizarre and has engendered a lot of backlash. It has become a major news issue in science circles. WHO moved the goalposts on its glyphosate review. Some reporters have dug into the WHO evaluation and have found some very very troubling things.

People can read and decide for themselves.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/who-iarc-glyphosate/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykabat/2017/10/23/iarcs-glyphosate-gate-scandal/#39fdbe1abd1b
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffr...-change-in-the-agencys-behavior/#5abb0634c37d
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...ce-iarc-supporters-monsanto-papers-narrative/

WHO is also known for having classified coffee as a carcinogen. WHO links lots of things with cancer including alcohol, processed foods, pickling, salt cured meats/fish, sugar, hot drinks and the sun. That court case is taking place in the middle of all of this and the courtroom is where lawyering can be a great influence on understanding complex science. It isn't finished and more will come from this for sure.

I think that’s Californian regulations that consider those items to be carcinogenic but some of the things you listed are mutagenic at different doses/levels. They are a bit odd in California and err on the side of caution, probably for legal reasons. However, the NIH, the American government health research agency, does publish data suggesting limited carcinogenicity in experimental animals. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/glyphosate#section=Fire-Prevention Most toxic effects seem to come from concentrated solutions though and those toxic effects are skin and eye irritation mostly.

I've made analogues of glyphosate in the lab. I can’t speak about the carcinogenic effects in humans but I definitely wouldn’t drink the stuff and I try to avoid pesticide ridden produce if I can (very difficult to do and some pesticides are often necessary especially in a commercial enterprise where things like crop rotation and fields laying fallow are not possible). Many organophosphates can do nasty things. Wash your fruit and veg well!
 
No. Glyphosate is not considered a carcinogen by all the best-established science-based evaluation programs in the world, except WHO. Toxicology is my bag and the overall weight of evidence at this time is against glyphosate being a carcinogen. WHO's determination is bizarre and has engendered a lot of backlash. It has become a major news issue in science circles. WHO moved the goalposts on its glyphosate review. Some reporters have dug into the WHO evaluation and have found some very very troubling things.

People can read and decide for themselves.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/who-iarc-glyphosate/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykabat/2017/10/23/iarcs-glyphosate-gate-scandal/#39fdbe1abd1b
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffr...-change-in-the-agencys-behavior/#5abb0634c37d
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...ce-iarc-supporters-monsanto-papers-narrative/

WHO is also known for having classified coffee as a carcinogen. WHO links lots of things with cancer including alcohol, processed foods, pickling, salt cured meats/fish, sugar, hot drinks and the sun. That court case is taking place in the middle of all of this and the courtroom is where lawyering can be a great influence on understanding complex science. It isn't finished and more will come from this for sure.


People can read and decide for themselves.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/who-iarc-glyphosate/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykabat/2017/10/23/iarcs-glyphosate-gate-scandal/#39fdbe1abd1b
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffr...-change-in-the-agencys-behavior/#5abb0634c37d
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...ce-iarc-supporters-monsanto-papers-narrative/



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I wasn't referring to glyphosate, but to round up itself. Round up largely contains glyphosate-(which has been proven through studies to have ill affects other than cancer). Round up also contains other chemicals which have never been revealed to the public or any branch of any government in the world. Other chemicals can and do change the overall affect. The US EPA in the 1980's assessment of glyphosate was "probably a carcinogen". But they changed it years later. Lawsuits under way (in addition to the one just won) allege criminal collusion between the EPA and Monsanto; and documents have been entered as evidence include emails / memo's.

The portugese (bad spelling) medical association has publicly called for a world wide ban on glyphosate based Ag chemicals.

this read has good links to reference on glyphosate and its link to 15 health problems. https://www.globalresearch.ca/fifteen-health-problems-linked-to-monsantos-roundup/5507229

One article follows the british parliament, and a number of its members who volunteered for blood testing which revealed they had glyphosate residues in their blood-it is highly persistent and now found around the world including breast milk. Much like Ag DDT was, before being banned. It is still found world wide decades later.
If you are reading this you likely have glyphosate residues in your blood.

Yup, Corporate scientest's were real honest moral types who stated "there is no link between smoking and cancer".
this history of monsanto includes Monsanto's conviction for falsifying data. Im old enough to say deja vu.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-c...anto-the-worlds-most-evil-corporation/5387964

There are also allegations that Monsanto hired trolls through a third party - to cast a positive review of monsanto on social media.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/monsanto-it-aint-glyphosate-its-the-additives/5606670

GB government collusion with monsanto article https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-b...o-crimes-against-humanity-and-ecocide/5571191 https://www.globalresearch.ca/agroc...ruption-dr-mason-writes-to-the-us-epa/5553489 Dr. alleges corruption

more https://www.globalresearch.ca/weedk...utes-air-rain-and-rivers-across-america/26313

revealing docs including quotes from Robert F Kennedy Jr on the dangers and collusion taking place https://www.globalresearch.ca/docs-...ts-to-influence-reports-about-roundup/5602478

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-c...anto-the-worlds-most-evil-corporation/5387964
https://www.globalresearch.ca/monsa...banned-brazils-public-prosecutor-says/5377443


there are many more articles on glyphosate and roundup at www.globalresearch.ca
 
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