cuteblackfox
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Bike ran out of oil... while riding... so what now? :(
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I know, since her images were not showing I just pulled a picture from google.
My Judgement is from common sense. Since the "silver hole" is right beside the oil filter cover which has to be removed in order to change the oil filter, it is logical that it wasn't tight properly and to someone with no mechanical knowledge it will look like it is coming out of there
My Judgement is from common sense. Since the "silver hole" is right beside the oil filter cover which has to be removed in order to change the oil filter, it is logical that it wasn't tight properly and to someone with no mechanical knowledge it will look like it is coming out of there
Riceburner
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Will be hard to tell if that was the culprit now that you have removed it.
What does everyone think? Tighten everything back up and replace the oil and see if it runs?
At this point, not much to lose by trying. Although I'd try to get the shop to deal with it first before doing anything myself.
Seems very possible that the engine seized due to oil starvation and won't even turn over anymore anyway
I would like to first remove the filter cover and see if there is any metal in the filter, if that is fine then tight everything properly and add oil and try to start.
Riceburner
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Who did the oil change? A shop or individual. If a shop, see what they say first. If an individual, look into it independantly.
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kiwi
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I find it incredible that "oil leaked out" and it wasn't noticed? It should have made a right old mess of the bike, potentially spraying on your rear tires .. potentially you cold have crashed before the engine seized.
I've had oil leak before, and it generally runs along the engine, gets hot and can be smelt.. (that's how I found it) Such a small leak may not spray on tires, but would take an age to leak completely to the level that engine would seize.
Also, you would see oil below the motorcycle when parked.
Mechanic is the best bet now I guess.
I've had oil leak before, and it generally runs along the engine, gets hot and can be smelt.. (that's how I found it) Such a small leak may not spray on tires, but would take an age to leak completely to the level that engine would seize.
Also, you would see oil below the motorcycle when parked.
Mechanic is the best bet now I guess.
I suggest you drop the filter.
There should be two O rings. One about 3 inches in diameter on the outside edge of the housing and a smaller one between the through bolt and the filter.
Are they both there and not bodged?
http://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/2008-kawasaki-ninja-250r-ex250j8f/o/m148915#sch550368
Numbers 670 and 671.
If that doesn't solve the mystery; put some oil in it and look for where it leaked out.
If it doesn't leak out, fill it with oil and start it and look for leaks.
If you get it running again have someone run oil pressure tests on it.
There should be two O rings. One about 3 inches in diameter on the outside edge of the housing and a smaller one between the through bolt and the filter.
Are they both there and not bodged?
http://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/2008-kawasaki-ninja-250r-ex250j8f/o/m148915#sch550368
Numbers 670 and 671.
If that doesn't solve the mystery; put some oil in it and look for where it leaked out.
If it doesn't leak out, fill it with oil and start it and look for leaks.
If you get it running again have someone run oil pressure tests on it.
FLSTC
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Maybe they didn't fill oil after draining and replacing the filter?
The first oil change I ever did - I left the old oil filter gasket on (spin on filter). After a short ride, the double gasket blew, causing a large oil leak that covered the rear tire...
If your bike isn't covered in oil, and there's no oil in your parking spot, then most likely not filled after the oil change.
Your bike may have run with the residual oil, but parts would heat up significantly - pistons would seize in the cylinders... Bearings may be excessively worn by that point also, but the seize-up is the fatal point.
The first oil change I ever did - I left the old oil filter gasket on (spin on filter). After a short ride, the double gasket blew, causing a large oil leak that covered the rear tire...
If your bike isn't covered in oil, and there's no oil in your parking spot, then most likely not filled after the oil change.
Your bike may have run with the residual oil, but parts would heat up significantly - pistons would seize in the cylinders... Bearings may be excessively worn by that point also, but the seize-up is the fatal point.
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Riceburner
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Very good possibility. That's why knowing who did the change might help. Busy shop or in a rush individual.
Robbo
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Oil pressure light would be on if they didn't fill with new oil or under-filled...unless OP has a faulty oil pressure switch. As OP states, the bike wasn't run after oil change to check for leaks. So odds are the bike was under-filled by a volume equal to the oil filter capacity to begin with.
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statsman
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A new engine may be in your future or it may not.
I assume you have done this already, but I will state it just in case.
Have you filled up the crankcase and see if it will start? I had a car and the oil sending switch went on it.
When the oil pressure got too low, the engine would stop. This was a safety feature to ensure the engine didn't seize.
I assume you have done this already, but I will state it just in case.
Have you filled up the crankcase and see if it will start? I had a car and the oil sending switch went on it.
When the oil pressure got too low, the engine would stop. This was a safety feature to ensure the engine didn't seize.
good point - could also be that the person measured the oil level with the bike on the stand instead of standing straight and put very little oil on it, common rookie mistake, but she did say that there was oil coming out of the "silver hole"
JP0160
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So have you tried putting some oil in, rolling it a few feet in gear to try and move the piston and starting her up? Now that you've removed the cover/filter and drained the oil I doubt you have any leg to stand on for going after the person who originally did the work. The way I see it you have 3 choices:
-Pull the motor yourself and inspect for damages
-Buy a new/used motor
-Toss some oil in and fire her up
-Pull the motor yourself and inspect for damages
-Buy a new/used motor
-Toss some oil in and fire her up
Before any of those choices, this bike needs to get back to whoever did the oil change. The second the OP starts touching things (which it sounds like they already have) the oil change person may give them the FU as who knows if the OP meddled with it before it had problems.
for the guys that know this particular bike better, shouldn't the idiot light come on when the oil gets that low or pressure drops? Does this engine have that cutoff switch so it cant be run with no oil? Maybe not since it was running with no oil...
Doesnt a shop do a quick startup to check for leaks before leaving the bay after a change?
This has the makings of a 'buddy' change gone bad
Doesnt a shop do a quick startup to check for leaks before leaving the bay after a change?
This has the makings of a 'buddy' change gone bad
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