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Traffic!!!!

Nice trolling then, time to open that champagne bottle.

It was a reverse troll, I don't celebrate those. I will, however, make a token donation to a mental healthcare facility of your choice.
 
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Toronto commuters and GTA residents in general are in for a very rough ride. Lack of planning and funding for transit and road improvements (maintenance + capacity) over the last 25 - 30 years means GTA traffic is terrible and only going to get much worst. Subway expansions take 10 - 15 years to put in place, a LRT line 7 - 9 years and look at the length of time the 407 extension to the 115 is taking ( and this is a greenfield build compared to GTA highway construction) from initial planning to the 2020 end date, almost 10 years.

With continued GTA population growth and virtually none of the potential solutions even approved, much less funded with construction started traffic is going to get much much worst over the next 10 - 15 years. Terrible situation.
 
Regarding traffic avoidance, why do all the small town country foodmarts charge out the whazoo? Wouldn't that offset the benefits of going country?
 
Today was brutal.

Higher temps
Gardiner eastbound accident
427 accident

All the roadways were backed up. Took me 1.5 times my usual commute time. I was close to heatstroking i think

Ive done full days of riding in that kind of heat, but when air moves around you its not as bad... being static is a killer
 
Regarding traffic avoidance, why do all the small town country foodmarts charge out the whazoo? Wouldn't that offset the benefits of going country?

There are 2 prices, city and country...you got city pricing:D
 
Did someone hack @cool s account? I don't usually agree with him, but he does make sense here. Also too many people still shy away from trades. I've been working at my company for 20+ years. Kids I know that started trades invthe last 5 are making more than me now.
And on topic of traffic, I hate it. Did I mention that my workplace is moving to a new location which is only 6 minutes from my house? That's the commute I will take.
Drove across the 407 / concession 7/ Columbus to get to Oshawa zoo yesterday. Nice weekend drive. One of the guys there does that drive daily for work. No freaking thanks.

@Cool said they buy toys...so true. I tell the kids, get some real estate. Worry about the toys later. Some listen. Most don't.
@meme love the wealthy barber book (and I am lucky enough to have David Chilton interact regularly with me on Twitter ) Some of the kids at work know that I guve out some advice on saving. I keep a copy of the original one at work to lend out at those times. One kid that I helped a few years ago, he still hasn't bought a house (he may live with parents for a long while, my guess) but has saved up a considerable amount of money thanks to that book.

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problem is most people have no clue on how to get started in a trade....I sure didnt


How do you become a plumber? You get an apprenticeship....how does that happen? You find work......how do you find work?...you have experience!

Its a vicious cycle
 
problem is most people have no clue on how to get started in a trade....I sure didnt


How do you become a plumber? You get an apprenticeship....how does that happen? You find work......how do you find work?...you have experience!

Its a vicious cycle

In ontario you have to find a company that will put you into the apprenticeship program, and then hope the company actually does. In Alberta you walk into the school of trades and say I want to be X trade, school says that will be $1200 for the first year than give you a start school date. There is job placement to get on the job experience. In ontario it's a joke, you may work for a company for years and never get put into an apprenticeship, then try another company and hope it goes better. Typical ****ed up ontario.
 
I recently bought a house in Orangeville. I work in Brampton. Door to Door it's 45 minutes to travel about 45 km, for the drive home.

If I want to go to my parents house in Toronto, it's a 22km commute, which also takes 45 minutes.
 
But it's your parents, come on man. You wouldn't be here without them. I'm assuming.
 
The 'Raymond' distance - ideally you live far enough away from your relatives where they're not tempted just to pop-in, but not far enough where they'd be tempted to stay overnight if they did visit.
 
In other news, house prices are too high. There might even be a whining thread about that somewhere on GTAM.

No way that whining about housing prices and congestion are two sides of the same coin, of course. I mean if house prices go up, you just buy a smaller house the same distance from work, right?

Well OK, maybe there is a connection. But dammit when you were growing up all the sitcoms told us we could have a detached home with a yard and a garage with two cars, what authority does the housing market have to take away our rightful destiny? No, wait... the market is beyond reproach, it must be the government's fault. If they just built more car lanes instead of empty bike lanes, traffic would flow freely.

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That's why I vote 1950s errr... I mean Conservative! If we only did everything the same as we did 60 years ago, we'd have lives just as easy now as we did then. Never mind that at the time our grandparents raised a family in homes under 1000 sq. ft. Or that they had neighbourhood stores they could walk to. Or that their self-esteem wasn't tied to their possessions. What they had was easy commutes and front yards, and that must be all that matters since we don't have it any more.

Bottom line, the city sucks because it doesn't allow us to own a farmhouse near our job at a reasonable price. Damn Libtards!

I mean the massive success of no meaningful transit development for three decades shows just how much we need more cars in the city. Oh yeah, and fewer immigrant drivers who try to butt in at the last second. Problem solved. It really all boils down to a question of personal strength of character. If we had more people "like us" (ie what we looked like in the 50s) and a build environment totally dependent on private car ownership (ie like the 50s) then everything would be right with the city.
 
Dude, you are still living in the past.
In the 50's you would not be on the computer typing this now would you.
There is no going back, you can't and people/society today is WAY different.
It's like being pregnant...it's done, no such thing as half pregnant.


In other news, house prices are too high. There might even be a whining thread about that somewhere on GTAM.

No way that whining about housing prices and congestion are two sides of the same coin, of course. I mean if house prices go up, you just buy a smaller house the same distance from work, right?

Well OK, maybe there is a connection. But dammit when you were growing up all the sitcoms told us we could have a detached home with a yard and a garage with two cars, what authority does the housing market have to take away our rightful destiny? No, wait... the market is beyond reproach, it must be the government's fault. If they just built more car lanes instead of empty bike lanes, traffic would flow freely.

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That's why I vote 1950s errr... I mean Conservative! If we only did everything the same as we did 60 years ago, we'd have lives just as easy now as we did then. Never mind that at the time our grandparents raised a family in homes under 1000 sq. ft. Or that they had neighbourhood stores they could walk to. Or that their self-esteem wasn't tied to their possessions. What they had was easy commutes and front yards, and that must be all that matters since we don't have it any more.

Bottom line, the city sucks because it doesn't allow us to own a farmhouse near our job at a reasonable price. Damn Libtards!

I mean the massive success of no meaningful transit development for three decades shows just how much we need more cars in the city. Oh yeah, and fewer immigrant drivers who try to butt in at the last second. Problem solved. It really all boils down to a question of personal strength of character. If we had more people "like us" (ie what we looked like in the 50s) and a build environment totally dependent on private car ownership (ie like the 50s) then everything would be right with the city.
 
In ontario you have to find a company that will put you into the apprenticeship program, and then hope the company actually does. In Alberta you walk into the school of trades and say I want to be X trade, school says that will be $1200 for the first year than give you a start school date. There is job placement to get on the job experience. In ontario it's a joke, you may work for a company for years and never get put into an apprenticeship, then try another company and hope it goes better. Typical ****ed up ontario.


For real?
Sounds too good to be true...

1200$ for the first year....is it free after that? or do you pay for each year? And im assuming they pay you since that is the essence of apprenticeships...
 
For real?
Sounds too good to be true...

1200$ for the first year....is it free after that? or do you pay for each year? And im assuming they pay you since that is the essence of apprenticeships...

School for 3 months then work 2000 hours than school etc. Yes you pay every year for school and you are paid for job placement. Price may be a little higher now, I havent checked in awhile.
 
I was in Los Angeles last week on my Harley, learning the daredevil art of splitting lanes. Even with lane splitting it's a horrible place to ride. Not as horrible as Toronto, but close.

I rarely ride a bike in Toronto. I rarely drive in Toronto. In fact, I rarely go to Toronto. Too crowded and nobody speaks clear English.
 
When "everyone has a problem but you" it most likely means that the one that has the problem is you
 
In ontario you have to find a company that will put you into the apprenticeship program, and then hope the company actually does. In Alberta you walk into the school of trades and say I want to be X trade, school says that will be $1200 for the first year than give you a start school date. There is job placement to get on the job experience. In ontario it's a joke, you may work for a company for years and never get put into an apprenticeship, then try another company and hope it goes better. Typical ****ed up ontario.

For real?
Sounds too good to be true...

1200$ for the first year....is it free after that? or do you pay for each year? And im assuming they pay you since that is the essence of apprenticeships...

You don't have to find a company that will put you in an apprenticeship program, but rather you approach the company and ask if they will sponsor your participation in the program. Therefore, you have to look into any prospective company before you start working for them. If that seems too difficult, in Ontario, there are pre-apprenticeship programs funded by the government designed to help students gain relevant education and obtain employment with a company that will help them complete the full apprenticeship - it's been around since at least 2003. I know this exists for electricians, machinists, automotive service, horticulturists and arborists - and other trades (carpentry, welding) tend to vary from college to college and year to year.

Assuming what was posted about Alberta is correct, then just like in Alberta, these are pre-app programs that are specifically designed for students who are looking for work in a trade and they also take classes in business writing including resumes & interviews, and attend job placements / job fairs, unlike other normal apprenticeship programs, where students already are working in the trade and are only seeking the trade specific theory/education. The cost of tuition varies from program to program, but can be as low as $600/semester where the students take 8-10 courses each semester. They still have to work the required number of trade hours and write a ministry exam to complete the process.

Furthermore, in Ontario, while a student is in a pre-apprenticeship or even a regular apprenticeship program, they can be on EI and they do receive grants for completing each semester and a further grant if they write and pass the ministry certification exam at the end. When I went through the program, I ended up getting $1000 per semester completed and then $2000 for passing the ministry exam in a Red Seal trade. Other students applied for optional bursaries and received an additional $1000-2000 (and this is also while on EI while in school and having to pay nothing for books and supplies). Other expenses like travel allowances are often also covered.

The employers also get a subsidy to offset the fact that they are hiring and training these employees. My employer passed this subsidy on to me, because I worked hard and learned fast. Check out the websites of specific colleges or the MTCU for more information. Hope that helps clarify and misinformation.
 
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I was in Los Angeles last week on my Harley, learning the daredevil art of splitting lanes. Even with lane splitting it's a horrible place to ride. Not as horrible as Toronto, but close.

I rarely ride a bike in Toronto. I rarely drive in Toronto. In fact, I rarely go to Toronto. Too crowded and nobody speaks clear English.

When "everyone has a problem but you" it most likely means that the one that has the problem is you

Another dance off?
You busy with cool and shaman...lol
 

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