I know I am a new guy on here and maybe I should keep my yap shut. I am not taking any sides here but I am just wondering why do this in a residential area. Mississauga has many commercial/industrial and non residential areas with large empty paved parking areas where you could do this kind of thing and not disturb anyone.
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crazy old guy in the GTA
- Thread starter 6Foot4Honda
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Ya thats easy to picture. And then picture a kindly old gentleman approaching the misguided young whippersnappers in a non-retarded manner.
OnAnySunday
Well-known member
That's Oakville, wrong hood.
Guys - get a life. All this talk about how you would knock out "The Crazy" if you were in OP's situation and how you gonna show up there and stick it to the man. We ain't in high school no more. At least most of us aren't.
Kudos to OP for handling the situation nicely.
Kudos to OP for handling the situation nicely.
6Foot4Honda
Member
you didnt watch the whole video but you can make assumptions on my character?
old crazies will defer old crazies i guess. we were doing nothing wrong.
just don't do no ninja on me
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as for the location, its not in oakville..apparently the guy does NOT own a bike at all.
I'm sure Baggsy would take your side if you where A. on a Harley and B. staging for some charity ride
Unfortunately for you, you're on an "crotch rocket" and since whatever you where doing didn't have a sick kid or a dead rider's memory attached to it, it wont earn the crazy old man seal of approval.
fyi most unnecessary noise by-laws only apply after 11pm. So as long as your pipe is close to stock db levels do your thing and let the grumpy farts do what they do. Honestly, with that attitude and behavior, they either have a stroke or end up yelling at people through the windows of the lock down ward at the old folks home.... but from the way you handled it, you clearly already knew that.
Unfortunately for you, you're on an "crotch rocket" and since whatever you where doing didn't have a sick kid or a dead rider's memory attached to it, it wont earn the crazy old man seal of approval.
fyi most unnecessary noise by-laws only apply after 11pm. So as long as your pipe is close to stock db levels do your thing and let the grumpy farts do what they do. Honestly, with that attitude and behavior, they either have a stroke or end up yelling at people through the windows of the lock down ward at the old folks home.... but from the way you handled it, you clearly already knew that.
That has already been done. We don't need it again.
This is untrue. These days excessive noise bylaws do not specify time, those specific bylaws with respect to the use of construction equipment or lawn care equipment do. Brampton, for example, has absolutely no time constraints on its excessive noise bylaw.
A mayor and her staff who are allegedly rather free with the public purse, if you're to believe the audits.
Far enough, I stand corrected.
Here is the Hamilton by-law where it does state a time frame but it applies to dirt bikes really.
Anyway as far as I can tell the word 'Reasonable" is thrown around liberally in these noise by-laws. A large factor in whether or not a noise is reasonable is time of day, and I'm guessing there is precedent in each city which defines when in the evening a noise such as an occasional rev of an engine becomes unreasonable. Otherwise the decision as to weather the noise is unnecessary would be left to a purely subjective opinion of a police officer, and there is plenty of evidence floating around the interwebs showing the pitfalls of that scenario. Here in Hamilton the cops will not bother breaking up your party until after 11pm, at least in my experience, is that due to case precedent? I don't honestly know, I always assumed it was by-law
QUALITATIVE NOISE
PROHIBITIONS
3.(1) No person shall make or permit to be made:
(a) an unreasonable noise; or
(b) a noise that is likely to disturb the inhabitants of the City.
3.(2) Without limiting the generality of section 3, noise from the sources listed in paragraphs
3(2)(a) to 3(2)(h) is deemed to be an unreasonable noise or a noise that is likely to
disturb the inhabitants of the City:
(a) a bell, horn, siren or other warning device, including but not limited to a vehicle's
bell, horn, siren or other warning device when unnecessary or for an unreasonable
period of time except when permitted by statute, regulation or by-law;
(b) a condition of disrepair or maladjustment, including but not limited to the
maladjustment of any load, of any vehicle or a part or accessory of any vehicle;
(c) a radio, amplifier, speaker or other similar device on or in a vehicle that is clearly
audible at least 8 m from the vehicle;
(d) a radio, amplifier, speaker or other similar device that is:
(i) projected into a public place for the purpose of advertising a good or
service; or
(ii) clearly audible at a point of reception;
(e) a discharge of the exhaust of any steam engine, internal combustion engine or
pneumatic device except with an exhaust or intake muffling device in good working
order and in constant operation that prevents unreasonable noise;
(f) a combustion or electric engine, including but not limited to a model airplane or allterrain
vehicle engine, that is:
(i) used for recreational purposes;
(ii) used between 10 p.m. of one day and 7 a.m. of the next day or used for
more than 1 hour in total between 7 a.m. and 10 p.m. of one day; and
(iii) clearly audible at a point of reception;
(g) an animal under the care, control or ownership of an individual that isi
(i) persistent; and
(ii) clearly audible at a point of reception,
except such noise from an animal on a farm; or
(h) construction or loading that is clearly audible at a point of reception between 10
p.m. of one day and 7 a.m. of the next day.
I had both bylaw enforcement officers AND police attend, on different occasions, when an unreasonable neighbour constantly played music that was loud enough to literally shake all of the glasses and dishes in my cupboards. Every occasion was around noon or in the afternoon, not evening or night.
And before anyone says that I over reacted I tried to deal with it politely and peacefully, and the idiot not only became enraged, but got physically aggressive. He was eventually kicked out by the landlords.
And before anyone says that I over reacted I tried to deal with it politely and peacefully, and the idiot not only became enraged, but got physically aggressive. He was eventually kicked out by the landlords.
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