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style is always important, life is too short to own an ugly motorbike.

I totally get that... for others life is too short to sit around cleaning and looking at the bike instead of riding it.

..Tom
 
I totally get that... for others life is too short to sit around cleaning and looking at the bike instead of riding it.

..Tom

cleaning and looking is all you can do if it is broken down...again....or you are waiting for back order parts...again
I kid I kid:mrgreen:
 
As far as taking care goes I can't say I do much at all and probably do way less than most people. I change the oil and filter, change brake pads, have the valves checked twice in the time I will own the bike, lube the chain with every fill-up and after every rain ride (this takes about 10 or 15 seconds), have the chain and sprockets replaced somewhere between 70,000 and 80,000 km and will do the coolant every 2nd or 3rd year.

Seriously you can't use maintenance as an excuse against Liquid cooling.

If style is more important than actually riding I get that you might not like the way it looks.


..Tom

Well I guess that's your experience. Hundreds of YouTube videos on "Repairing the coolant leak on a ________" tell another story. Don't bother telling me it doesn't happen - I've SEEN it happen, and I've worked on enough engines to know exactly what happens to LC engines over time. This is not to say they're unreliable; on the contrary they are very reliable, especially if the coolant is changed regularly. However, they also add an entirely new host of break down possibilities that do indeed happen, whether you like to believe it or not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fKrr4h-tvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZMiiO4RCiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYe3GlbJdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65gJ-4p98Ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me8Tz9vEfOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HY8ePdycU


There's a slew of vids like this, some with over 200,000 hits. I do this kind of maintenance on my cars and I'd rather not. I'm just glad that I can park my bikes without worrying about mucking around changing coolant, fixing gaskets, or replacing worn out water pumps. It usually won't bother someone until there's a problem. Until then, the bike is made in heaven.







 
Well I guess that's your experience. Hundreds of YouTube videos on "Repairing the coolant leak on a ________" tell another story. Don't bother telling me it doesn't happen - I've SEEN it happen, and I've worked on enough engines to know exactly what happens to LC engines over time. This is not to say they're unreliable; on the contrary they are very reliable, especially if the coolant is changed regularly. However, they also add an entirely new host of break down possibilities that do indeed happen, whether you like to believe it or not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fKrr4h-tvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZMiiO4RCiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYe3GlbJdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65gJ-4p98Ds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me8Tz9vEfOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HY8ePdycU


There's a slew of vids like this, some with over 200,000 hits. I do this kind of maintenance on my cars and I'd rather not. I'm just glad that I can park my bikes without worrying about mucking around changing coolant, fixing gaskets, or replacing worn out water pumps. It usually won't bother someone until there's a problem. Until then, the bike is made in heaven.








Using that same logic, you may as well get rid of electric start. It's rare to have problems but that's not good enough compared to kick start. Even more so, may as well sell the bike. Literally, the chance of dying as a rider is much higher than the chance of a coolant leak on a bike. By all means be consistent with your logic and follow through.
 

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