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Kawasaki Ninja H2...750 cc supercharged.

Motorcycles are not ever hard assets.
I'm guessing you financial genius haven't paid any attention to the last decade, Bonhams auction house has 6 full time specialists, staff of dozens on contract and auction centers on 4 continents running motorcycle sales, because the process of buying and selling motors bikes cant be considered an investment strategy, its a 6.4 million dollar hobby over at Bonham's. You may need to clean the glass on your goldfish bowl.
 
I'm guessing you financial genius haven't paid any attention to the last decade, Bonhams auction house has 6 full time specialists, staff of dozens on contract and auction centers on 4 continents running motorcycle sales, because the process of buying and selling motors bikes cant be considered an investment strategy, its a 6.4 million dollar hobby over at Bonham's. You may need to clean the glass on your goldfish bowl.

oh, you mean like the Scottsdale Barett -Jackson auctions?, where old farts pay hundreds of thousands for old Detroit junk worth a fraction of that two years later. That fake market collapsed. Same with Italian sports cars, they cycle up and down.
Bonhams frequently lists rare bikes at >$250K that never sell. This is a market manipulated by a few millionaires on a few bikes, and is a fake speculation market.
Some sentimental sucker drops $200K on a bike and then tries to sell it at auctions for YEARS with no bids to meet reserve. Bonhams doesn't talk about that.
The people making money are the restorers, and the Bonhams house.
Hang on to your '78 RD400, will be worth big bucks one day.
 
oh, you mean like the Scottsdale Barett -Jackson auctions?, where old farts pay hundreds of thousands for old Detroit junk worth a fraction of that two years later. That fake market collapsed. Same with Italian sports cars, they cycle up and down.
Bonhams frequently lists rare bikes at >$250K that never sell. This is a market manipulated by a few millionaires on a few bikes, and is a fake speculation market.
Some sentimental sucker drops $200K on a bike and then tries to sell it at auctions for YEARS with no bids to meet reserve. Bonhams doesn't talk about that.
The people making money are the restorers, and the Bonhams house.
Hang on to your '78 RD400, will be worth big bucks one day.

No pretty sure had I meant Barrett Jackson I'd had referenced them, but they sell cars. Anybody in the industry watched the muscle car boom , go boom. Actually Bonham is pretty front when they value your product and will suggest selling retail if your overly optimistic. Ben Walker the head of the MC division is quite well considered as a fair player. If you have ever sent a bike to auction , its on YOUR dime to ship it so you don't send it over and over and not make reserve. Frt to Quail or Vegas is about a grand+- from Toronto. The average auction bike is a 5-12,000. bike, yes they have margue bikes that headline in the 200k range, and they usually sell. Many of the product that don't meet reserve at the time of auction sell later in the day, or the next morning, usually for very close to the ask. Its like stock trading, pick the right bike and it will escalate. I'm a little connected to the industry and attend RM/ Mid America and the Bonham auctions annually and have watched the process for a decade. But do carry on, your insight is amazing.
 
Some people need to turn paper into hard assets.

Motorcycles are not ever hard assets.

They are to stupid people.

No pretty sure had I meant Barrett Jackson I'd had referenced them, but............................................................ But do carry on, your insight is amazing.

That'l be the last of falling for CafeRays' smooth talk. Thanks for sorting this crankcall.
 
Rickey Gadson has had this bike out on a track and reached 214 mph.
 
Its like stock trading, pick the right bike and it will escalate. I'm a little connected to the industry and attend RM/ Mid America and the Bonham auctions annually and have watched the process for a decade. But do carry on, your insight is amazing.

it's not like stock trading, stocks are regulated and tied to the real earning potential of a company (in theory). Cars or bikes are nothing but speculation and the manipulation of a market for fake demand.
Sorry, but a Suzuki RGV gamma is not worth $30,000...A bunch of guys buying them up and posting them at auctions doesn't change that.

I worked in the exotic car industry, there are massive warehouses north of Toronto full of cars that are worth less than the restoration costs, they were bought at a fraction and will be used in auctions to pump and dump. Some people figured out about a decade ago that this market can be played, but unlike the stock market, there is no regulation. People casually "investing" are just mushrooms to be cut.

I would not consider rare bikes as hard assets... just look at the huge number of eBay motors bikes that never met reserve price. The muscle car boom was entirely driven my aging baby boomers looking back, which could never be sustainable.
 
I was talking to the GPBikes guys and the 2 Superleggera Ducatis that were sitting there sold, would never be ridden. They were being put straight into collections. People are stupid

Some people need to turn paper into hard assets.

Motorcycles are not ever hard assets.

I'm probably not worthy of this discussion(no expert) but my flippant remark was more in regards to people turning paper into actual tangible goods. Do you trust all your paper?
 
Yamaha R7 was a collector bike....I think still is... a bone stock yamaha R7 with 3 digit kms might be worth big$$,no?
 
The R7 became something of a collector's item because it was a limited-production model whose cousins were World Superbikes - in particular, Noriyuki Haga rode one.

Before the R7 was the Yamaha OW01, and also see Honda RC45 and its predecessor the RC30, and the Kawasaki ZX7RR, and the GSXR750 Limited. The degree to which these became "collectible" ... varied considerably.

In some cases, if you have one of those bikes, you can't do much with it nowadays in its original form. The RC30 was saddled with an 18" rear rim. You can no longer get good tires in appropriate sizes for 18" rims (a situation that I've had to deal with myself - only viable solution was $$$$$ different rims). The Barber Motorsports museum has an RC30 on display. If you happen to go there (highly recommended, by the way) take a look at that bike's tires. It hasn't been ridden in many years, is unsafe to ride at any speed with what's on there, and us mere mortals can't get decent tires to replace them with. (George Barber might be able to, though ... but he hasn't ...)

It obviously remains to be seen what will happen with Kawasaki's H2 and H2R. Unless something changes, they will not be race bikes in any premier well-regarded series. The H2R is likely to be rare, but without a racing pedigree, what happens to it? The H2R could very well go down in history as the pinnacle of outright production-bike power-to-weight-ratio and speed. On the other hand ... some people stashed away the first (1989-ish) ZX-10 for the same reason, and now it's just another tired old overweight bike with crap suspension. But on the other hand ... the H2R (not the H2) looks like it will have a massive step beyond anything else in production-bike power output, and they're doing it in an era of increasing environmental and traffic-safety and insurance pressures, which makes it more likely that the H2R won't be topped.
 
[video=youtube;wGPqIv8ppqY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPqIv8ppqY[/video]

This is a non-bike, for the entire Great Britain, they will only import 10 R models and 15 street-legal models.
 
300hp.. meet 500hp.

[video=youtube;FJd5yg__Qko]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJd5yg__Qko[/video]

need an H2RR to keep up with that one...
 
need an H2RR to keep up with that one...

H2RRRR...
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Street version pics are starting to come out.

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The lack of a belly-pan is kinda bothering me.. also the front end protrudes too far forward, almost disproportional to the rest of the bike.

But hey, its ****ing supercharged so who cares.
 

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