i took track/race school and have done several track days. Seemed redundant to take advanced rider street training, though I realize they're not 100% the same. I am open to have my mind changed though.
No amount of training will turn the 5k a year fair weather rider into an experienced rider riding 9 months and tens of thousands of km annually.
I didn't mean you specifically, but I used you as an example.Me? I am not a top racer, although I have learned from a few. You need to think of it like this, most professional sports players are great players but NOT good coaches? Why because it takes different things to be a coach. Even Tiger woods has a coach, you never heard of him, his job is to make Tiger a better Golfer and he does it very well or you would not know who Tiger woods was.
I have trained for years, gone to school to be a coach, learn how to coach, what to look for and how to make riders better. I have been trained by some pretty well respected riders, racers and instructors, I do ride all types of bikes in all environments, I compete in Enduro's, Ride Track Days, even tour, Adventure, and MX. I look for and always try to improve my riding as well as my teaching.
This thread is not about me, it is about all Riders and why are they not participating in advanced rider training.
It depends on what I expect to get out of the training. I've done the intro street course, a track school and an off road thing.
The track school and the off road tour both offered great experiences (which is what I wanted) and were well worth the money. However, neither significantly improved my street riding - there simply wasn't enough seat time to do that. As others have mentioned, a class is nice but it has to be backed by a lot of practice to have any effect. Improving my street riding wasn't really the point with either of these courses, though. They offered a unique experience that I couldn't get elsewhere.
The other factor with advanced training is how specific it is. If I know nothing about a topic then general educational courses are fine, but usually the course is trying to serve too large of an audience with too widely varying skill or knowledge sets. This is true of any education, not just motorcycle training. The more specific the training is, the less likely you'll end up yawning and waiting for the class to get to the good stuff. So in that sense a trials class, wheelie school or braking clinic is preferable to a general 'advanced riding' course.
What is taught and how it will it save my life?
No amount of training will turn the 5k a year fair weather rider into an experienced rider riding 9 months and tens of thousands of km annually.
I also completed the humber instructor course, but I never became a motorcycle instructor because I didn't want to sacrifice so many weekends. The number of people in that class that had minimal riding experience yet were becoming instructors was appalling.
This is a very common opinion, but unfortunately explains why 45+ riders are the largest growing segment of fatalities. Men over 45 think they know everything they will ever need to know.
What's the last street smarts course YOU took since you think it meet to advise others what they need or don't need. ?
What courses are available to someone to rides between April and November, does many multi day tours per season and tries to be as safe as possible?
in my humble opinion...
The reality is this:
- cost prohibitive - $
- time prohibitive - dedicating a weekend (not everyone works Mon- Fri)
- competing interests - kids, responsibilities, work
Thanks Suzuki2000
I am not trying to sell any class or program here with this thread, but to answer your questions, Every class I teach, spectators are more than welcome, I only ask that you do not interfer with the class or the coaching, and I will always do my best to answer questions.
I am trying to see what things we can do in the bigger picture to help get people training that might help reduce accidents and fatalities.