Somehow a thread asking about the price of a bike turned into both another ABS debate and another small bikes debate. Might as well start debating the merits of Rotella T and DuPont Multilube to complete the thread.
How old are you?
I'm 23 and was quoted for the same through Dalton Timmis, 152 (1824/yr) for full coverage, and 119 (1428/yr) without collision.
What's recommended for a new motorcycle (6.1k non-financed)?
I was advised to not get collision by numerous people, even the broker..
If you`re a bigger guy you may want to try a 500CC instead because the frames are larger, power won't be much more noticeable.
May I know why? I'm a new rider, or soon to be once the snow melts
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Also congrats on the bike OP!
Recently purchased a brand new '16 Ninja 300 ABS KRT model for 6k out the door. Not the greatest deal on Earth but it was worth the peace of mind for me.
I don't get why people say this. The riders triangle is marginally different when comparing the same style of bike. A bigger guy just needs a different style of bike all together (bars, seat, foot position)...not engine size.
Sounds like you really want ABS.
Why?
I hate ABS on motorcycles.
I would never buy a bike with ABS or if I did, I would have to be able to completely disable it.
My wife's SV has ABS and I absolutely hate it.
Only reasons you would hate ABS on a street bike:
1. You ride on dirt/gravel often
2. You mash your brakes as if you were on the track (have fun getting rear ended)
3. You plan on stunting (in which case, you wouldn't buy an ABS equipped bike in the first place)
In the 4 years of having an ABS equipped bike, I've had it go off unintentionally twice - Once when someone made a right turn in front of me from the middle lane, and once during Gymkhana practice on wet pavement.
Curious where this hate comes from and if you've actually experienced ABS activating...
OP - You have a pretty decent deal especially if you're buying from a dealer. You'll start to see those prices climb closer to Spring though.
Yes the sv has outdated crappy abs. any newer bike with good abs is night and day better i can turn the rear abs off at any time i want to.When I ride my wife's SV, The ABS kicks in at almost every stop. There is always ripples or bumps leading up to any stop sign or stop light.
I grew up at age 6 riding motocross.
Backing it into corners is a given with me.
Threshold braking is not so hard with experience.
If I am heading into impending doom. I will threshold brake until it becomes apparent I must slide the rear end in a way to avoid physical injury.
I always want the ability to slide my rear end where ever I wish to.
One day my wife and I were out Sunday riding.
She with ABS and I without.
She was about 8 bike lengths behind me.
We were approaching a stop light. As I got close, it went yellow.
I was pretty close to the white stop line, and she was not.
I decided for her safety, to stop.
I stopped before the white line. I saw her fly past me with a horrified look on her face as she jammed on both brakes, but kept going well into the intersection.
In this case, I believe ABS put her at risk. After the ride, I asked her if I could disconnect it for her.
She declined.
When I ride her SV, I really do enjoy it.
It is a beautifully fun bike.
Except when I stop with it.
And for you doubters, I have 48 years experience.
This is always a had issue to stand up to, because I am one of the few who believe ABS is bad on a bike, and I am the only one who will defend my opinion on a public board.
I have many friends who believe ABS is wrong on a motorcycle.
I have a right to my opinion. And I don't care how many of you think I am wrong.
I hate ABS on recreational motorcycles.
When I ride my wife's SV, The ABS kicks in at almost every stop. There is always ripples or bumps leading up to any stop sign or stop light.
I grew up at age 6 riding motocross.
Backing it into corners is a given with me.
Threshold braking is not so hard with experience.
If I am heading into impending doom. I will threshold brake until it becomes apparent I must slide the rear end in a way to avoid physical injury.
I always want the ability to slide my rear end where ever I wish to.
One day my wife and I were out Sunday riding.
She with ABS and I without.
She was about 8 bike lengths behind me.
We were approaching a stop light. As I got close, it went yellow.
I was pretty close to the white stop line, and she was not.
I decided for her safety, to stop.
I stopped before the white line. I saw her fly past me with a horrified look on her face as she jammed on both brakes, but kept going well into the intersection.
In this case, I believe ABS put her at risk. After the ride, I asked her if I could disconnect it for her.
She declined.
When I ride her SV, I really do enjoy it.
It is a beautifully fun bike.
Except when I stop with it.
And for you doubters, I have 48 years experience.
This is always a had issue to stand up to, because I am one of the few who believe ABS is bad on a bike, and I am the only one who will defend my opinion on a public board.
I have many friends who believe ABS is wrong on a motorcycle.
I have a right to my opinion. And I don't care how many of you think I am wrong.
I hate ABS on recreational motorcycles.
Pretty much...'cause on your commute to work or on the way to the cottage you always 'back it in' , its natural.......
That SV's ABS is completely fried, might want to get it checked out in case it completely prevents breaking and causes you or your wife to ride into an intersection...
ABS only kicks in when the wheel is about to completely stop spinning, you can slam on the breaks as hard as you want and ABS won't turn on unless the wheel is about to start locking up.
I know it’s taking away from the thread debating ABS.
Got my experience in dirt and agree some bikes that have it can be a hinderance.