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JP0160 said:
I'm not too worried to be honest, and yeah I'm lucky it wasn't more catastrophic. I talked to the dealer over a month ago and they said they will send me a letter as soon as they get the official notice, but didn't tell me to stop riding it or inform me of the stop-sale. I didn't think it would fail given it's the same design as the old reliable 250's but with a couple different parts, but one of the new parts is whats defective.
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Sounds like a busted crank. Demand a new engine. The old one is bound to be shot, with pieces of metal all through it. Or tell them you want them to buy the bike back so you can go buy a Street 500.
 
I think we are seeing the realities of the very competitive low cc market. I can only imagine the push for aggressive cost reductions to gain margins. Either way; Engineers are humans and they make mistakes, so are parts suppliers and assemblers. I think what matters most here is that you have a reputable company who has a track record for standing behind what they produce. Just wish it happened on your last ride before storage so you wouldn't loose ride time.


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PLau said:
I think it's a sign to go in for major recall repairs ASAP rather than waiting until your vehicle dies.
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Agreed, but latest I've read on this one is Honda won't have the parts to start the recall until September, so the OP couldn't have taken it in earlier. Also depending on how they use the vehicle, if it is their daily then what are they really supposed to do...stop having a vehicle for 1-2 months in the middle of summer? If it is a fun toy, then different rules can apply.

If it were my bike, and it was still under warranty, I'd pretty much demand a new engine from Honda, assuming it boils down to a design flaw and not something else. Granted, not sure how much damage a blown crank can cause, but I assume it takes out a lot of other parts with it when it goes...
 
Roadghost said:
LOL. He won't see parts for that POS Honda until next year. His riding season's over. Talk about getting ripped off. I know, I've been there with Yamaha. It's why I bought a Harley, which I have never had a problem with.
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You should be the last to call anything a POS.... just sayin, give it time.
 
That's shameful for a company like Honda. All manufacturers are trying to design and build these "learner" bikes way too cheaply. Just because it's a 125/250/300 doesn't mean they shouldn't deliver a reliable machine. Time to dust off the 25 year old 250cc and 400cc designs from engineers who had a budget to work with and get the nerds to add fuel injection.
 
Psycho_Biker said:
That's shameful for a company like Honda. All manufacturers are trying to design and build these "learner" bikes way too cheaply. Just because it's a 125/250/300 doesn't mean they shouldn't deliver a reliable machine. Time to dust off the 25 year old 250cc and 400cc designs from engineers who had a budget to work with and get the nerds to add fuel injection.
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As someone who rides a 400cc 27 year old motorcycle...

They were far from perfect back then too.

New models ALWAYS have bugs in them.
 
Psycho_Biker said:
That's shameful for a company like Honda. All manufacturers are trying to design and build these "learner" bikes way too cheaply. Just because it's a 125/250/300 doesn't mean they shouldn't deliver a reliable machine. Time to dust off the 25 year old 250cc and 400cc designs from engineers who had a budget to work with and get the nerds to add fuel injection.
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It isn't just the smaller/cheaper models having issues. Yamaha had a big recall to rebuild the gearbox on the current R1, for example.

Not enough time in validation / durability testing, complexity of vehicles in general is increasing due to regulations (ABS, emissions) and consumer demand (traction control and all sorts of electronic bells and whistles), and pressure to keep the price down is resulting in sacrifice in other areas. Something's gotta give.
 
matthew said:
What's the old joke? 90% of all Harley's made are still out on the road; the other 10% made it back.
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So there you are with a broken crank at the side of the road when a Harley rolls up to help. "Yeah, I didn't buy a Harley, too unreliable..." :lmao:

Lose the fantasy.
 
Brian P said:
It isn't just the smaller/cheaper models having issues. Yamaha had a big recall to rebuild the gearbox on the current R1, for example.

Not enough time in validation / durability testing, complexity of vehicles in general is increasing due to regulations (ABS, emissions) and consumer demand (traction control and all sorts of electronic bells and whistles), and pressure to keep the price down is resulting in sacrifice in other areas. Something's gotta give.
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They don't have to put all those trinkets on their bikes. A solid basic motorcycle is what most young people want. I agree they have a cost problem they are addressing the wrong way. They are sourcing some of their engine parts from Chinese suppliers with poor quality control. I think they should stick to quality, put the price tag on it and if it sells, it sells. I believe they are very worried about the Chinese getting a foothold in the market and they feel they have to go cheap to keep them out.
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