Heard some distressing news re: State Farm buyout and Supersport/Superbikes | GTAMotorcycle.com

Heard some distressing news re: State Farm buyout and Supersport/Superbikes

Macs

Well-known member
Site Supporter
Heard through an underwriter at Certas and an agent for State Farm that there is a planned rate increase of 45-80% on sport bikes on returning business next year.

This is how it will shake down:

It's no secret that state farm has a disproportionately high amount of SS bikes on the books compared to you know...everyone else.

State Farm will adopt a new, very similar rating system to the rest of the industry on new business next month. This will allow them to bring in a large amount of customers with bikes such as the big Harleys, Goldwings, the big Touring/ADV bikes etc. since their downfall was always the CC based rating system.

This change will rollover into "returning" business come January. The way it was explained to me, customers will see a fluctuation in price of up to 80%.

Yes, 80%.

Now keep in mind that means 80 either direction. The fella with a brand new R1200GS? Very happy man. His rates will likely drop from over $2000 to the triple digits or low 1000s. The guy on the CBR600RR? Not so much.

The reason being that State Farm's competitors are currently quoting around 100% more than them in many cases. One example that was given to me was a 27 year old guy with a clean record on a GSXR750 (he had happened to be in the office earlier). Aviva quoted him just over $3000, Allstate said he wasn't eligible. TD said $4100. Facility is Facility. He insured with State Farm for $1948 a year.

When he renews, State Farm will likely reassess at $2824.60. This is still a competitive price since Aviva comes in at over $3000 and Facility of course is double that.

Now there is of course the chance that none of this will come to be and the status-quo will remain intact. Just wanted to pass on what I heard.
 
Last edited:
Doesn't pass the smell test. I switched away from State Farm earlier this year because another company had more competitive rates, and they're not the only one. Not saying State Farm won't be changing their rating system and that significant fluctuations might happen - but there are other options.
 
State Farm Canada is owned by Desjardins.

Likely adopting risk strategies closer to what Desjardins has been doing.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
State Farm Canada is owned by Desjardins.

Likely adopting risk strategies closer to what Desjardins has been doing.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I was with sf now certas automatically

Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
 
I was with sf now certas automatically

Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
Yes. And no.
My 2nd last renewal from SF was from Certas $990.
Switched to Dejardins with Certas same coverage $352.
Same pink slip, different policy number, boatload of cash still in my pocket.

Sent from a Samsung Galaxy far, far away using Tapatalk
 
State Farm Canada is owned by Desjardins.

Likely adopting risk strategies closer to what Desjardins has been doing.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
They are. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing yet.

Sent from a Samsung Galaxy far, far away using Tapatalk
 
They are. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing yet.

Sent from a Samsung Galaxy far, far away using Tapatalk

Good for you obviously Joe, lol
 
Switched long time ago. I know this was gonna come soon
 
This is already happening.... My renewal was in June.... It was being raised 50% ($106/mo to $149/month) so I left and went to Allstate
 
This is already happening.... My renewal was in June.... It was being raised 50% ($106/mo to $149/month) so I left and went to Allstate

The rate increase this year is seperate from the one happening next year. Mine went from 1800 to 2100 this year as well
 
So this is also for renewal customers?

I guess its time to switch. How do i build good riding history? my driving record does not count right?

I've been riding on and off for years (due to many reasons) so i dont have a continuous bike insurance policy. Statefarm gives me pretty much the same rate every time i come back (so i guess they count my as new rider ? )
 
So this is also for renewal customers?

I guess its time to switch. How do i build good riding history? my driving record does not count right?

I've been riding on and off for years (due to many reasons) so i dont have a continuous bike insurance policy. Statefarm gives me pretty much the same rate every time i come back (so i guess they count my as new rider ? )
Come back? Like, from another country? Or come back to riding?
If you have insurance in another province/ country, doesn't that go towards history?

Sent from a Samsung Galaxy far, far away using Tapatalk
 
I had my zx6r with SF for a few months this summer but switched to Aviva because my total insurance plan was cheaper when I grouped in my home, cars and bike. State Farm was considerably more.

The bike was cheaper on its own but the other premiums were ridiculous so I switched.
 
Come back? Like, from another country? Or come back to riding?
If you have insurance in another province/ country, doesn't that go towards history?

Sent from a Samsung Galaxy far, far away using Tapatalk

Back to riding. Due to my prev jobs and life situations....
 
All insurance companies rate premiums based on continuous years insured. Gaps in coverage are a concern. Even if there is an explanation.
You can't accumulate the time insured and just ignore the gaps unfortunately.

So, it is just like starting over. Although years licensed does count as a positive.
 
Just got off the phone with my agent and she said she was hearing the same thing. Supposedly Supersport will be an issue to insure at all and will be a high premium if it goes through. The changes won't be seen till Jan.2016 so basically people should be seeing these numbers as early as late Nov or Dec?

She did say that they'll be getting preferred rates as they're operating as state farm and not switching to the Desjardins banner as far as she knows. Any suggestions of where I might be able to go if the worst case scenario occurs? 28 y/o, two tickets and riding a K6 GSXR750.

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk
 
Heard through an underwriter at Certas and an agent for State Farm that there is a planned rate increase of 45-80% on sport bikes on returning business next year.

This is how it will shake down:

It's no secret that state farm has a disproportionately high amount of SS bikes on the books compared to you know...everyone else.

State Farm will adopt a new, very similar rating system to the rest of the industry on new business next month. This will allow them to bring in a large amount of customers with bikes such as the big Harleys, Goldwings, the big Touring/ADV bikes etc. since their downfall was always the CC based rating system.

This change will rollover into "returning" business come January. The way it was explained to me, customers will see a fluctuation in price of up to 80%.

Yes, 80%.

Now keep in mind that means 80 either direction. The fella with a brand new R1200GS? Very happy man. His rates will likely drop from over $2000 to the triple digits or low 1000s. The guy on the CBR600RR? Not so much.

The reason being that State Farm's competitors are currently quoting around 100% more than them in many cases. One example that was given to me was a 27 year old guy with a clean record on a GSXR750 (he had happened to be in the office earlier). Aviva quoted him just over $3000, Allstate said he wasn't eligible. TD said $4100. Facility is Facility. He insured with State Farm for $1948 a year.

When he renews, State Farm will likely reassess at $2824.60. This is still a competitive price since Aviva comes in at over $3000 and Facility of course is double that.

Now there is of course the chance that none of this will come to be and the status-quo will remain intact. Just wanted to pass on what I heard.

This is terrible news, but I can't say I'm surprised considering dejardins bought state farm out.
Time to look for a new insurance company.
 
All insurance companies rate premiums based on continuous years insured. Gaps in coverage are a concern. Even if there is an explanation.

...for what it's worth, I talked about this exact issue with my insurer (Riders Plus) and they seemed to have some tolerance for this as long as you come back to them upon renewal. Reason being...my policy will expire at the beginning of October next year at my renewal date....if the weather is going downhill and we're satisfied with the amount of riding we've done by that point.. I asked them "so what if I let it lapse for the winter and then reinstate the following spring" and they said that as long as I renewed with them in said scenario they'd not penalize me for it.

Going to a new insurer with a 6 month gap might be an issue however, agreed.
 
Last edited:
This is terrible news, but I can't say I'm surprised considering dejardins bought state farm out.
Time to look for a new insurance company.

Called my state farm/certas/dejardins agent today.....was advised that they won't officially have the new rates till december.....for implementation effective january 1, 2016. And yes, they would not be surprised if they lose the sport bike insurance market because desjardin insurance is implementing their corporate policies .......and its possible for sport bike insurance rates to double.
The insured will be given 60 days notice prior to their policies expiring ......so that the insured have time to shop for a new insurer.
 
Called my state farm/certas/dejardins agent today.....was advised that they won't officially have the new rates till december.....for implementation effective january 1, 2016. And yes, they would not be surprised if they lose the sport bike insurance market because desjardin insurance is implementing their corporate policies .......and its possible for sport bike insurance rates to double.
The insured will be given 60 days notice prior to their policies expiring ......so that the insured have time to shop for a new insurer.

I wouldn't stick with that agent/office if I were you, they've had the numbers since early October, no need to lie to customers imo.
 

Back
Top Bottom