I will be looking at this. Hopefully they don't make you buy the SLTLTZXXX model with 24" rims and ball warmers to get it.
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Ram 1500 Eco Diesel Review
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I wouldn't go ECO boost. Have problems (you can search class action on it).
Moisture droplets in the turbo cause spark plugs to ground out the side and breaking plugs on a regular basis.
Fix is to shove a plastic cover on the rad and make bigger or smaller based on temps.
I wanted a ford too, but decided to stay away until they fix that eco boost mess.
Also the mpg for the eco boost not living up.
Lastly, aluminium is mighty expensive and tears before allowing for repairs. Your talking body panels that used to cost $5-600 now looking at $2000 or more.
From what I've heard from Ram owners not many complaints and these guys love their trucks.
Will be interesting to see if the new generation hold up better from rust but if you can get in a pentastar or eco-diesel for a go price they are a nice truck. If I were to go ford I stick to what they do well with the F150 or the heavy duties (250-450). My brother has one over 350,000 and still running strong as a work truck with glass smooth shifts and motor sounds/pulls like new. Triton V8 is pretty solid.
Moisture droplets in the turbo cause spark plugs to ground out the side and breaking plugs on a regular basis.
Fix is to shove a plastic cover on the rad and make bigger or smaller based on temps.
I wanted a ford too, but decided to stay away until they fix that eco boost mess.
Also the mpg for the eco boost not living up.
Lastly, aluminium is mighty expensive and tears before allowing for repairs. Your talking body panels that used to cost $5-600 now looking at $2000 or more.
From what I've heard from Ram owners not many complaints and these guys love their trucks.
Will be interesting to see if the new generation hold up better from rust but if you can get in a pentastar or eco-diesel for a go price they are a nice truck. If I were to go ford I stick to what they do well with the F150 or the heavy duties (250-450). My brother has one over 350,000 and still running strong as a work truck with glass smooth shifts and motor sounds/pulls like new. Triton V8 is pretty solid.
Red_Liner740
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Just wanted to add, yes, diesel option is extra, but IMO well worth it on the back end as the diesel hold their value well above what gasers do.
You can find 2007/2008 Jeeps in the 4.7 V8 and Hemi for 7, 8k all day long. A diesel version starts in the 12k mark and decent ones are in the 14 to 18k mark.
You can find 2007/2008 Jeeps in the 4.7 V8 and Hemi for 7, 8k all day long. A diesel version starts in the 12k mark and decent ones are in the 14 to 18k mark.
So about the difference it was to add the diesel option in the first place
Why do diesel engines seem to last so long? Is it the lower rpm? Better build? I know the compression and heat is way up there. Let's say you're in your last 20 years of driving and you average 10-15k kms/yr, would it be realistic as the last vehicle you'll ever need to buy?
yeah ok.
while acknowledging that every brand has its issues, it's well known across the industry, that Chysler quality is atrocious. Not just the trucks, the entire line.
"The Dodge, Ram, Jeep and Fiat brands occupied the bottom four spots of 28 brands".....
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...-quality-boss-takes-the-fall/article21349904/
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If you are driving 10-15K/yr, you will take forever to save enough $ on fuel to make the diesel option pay off.
I have a buddy who leased a Jetta, and did the math . His lease allowed him a max of 20K/yr. The diesel saved him about $20/ tankful, but cost 5 grand more to start. So it would take 10-12 yrs to save his $ back in fuel savings...... he lives in Markham and works 15 minutes from home. His car would barely even warm up before he got to work. Not very good circumstances for buying a diesel.
He wanted one because I had such good luck with mine-however my girlfriend lived in Grand Bend, I lived in Brantford, and we saw eachother 5 day a week for 6 yrs. In the first 28 days I had the car, I popped a head gasket under warranty, and the dealer freaked out because I had driven 9700 kms in less than a month. I explained that I bought it to drive it. Diesel was less than 50 cents/litre at the time, so I was doing a two way drive to Grand Bend for less than $10....phone calls would cost more.
It was a good car for my needs, but not his. He ended up buying a gas jetta.
I have a buddy who leased a Jetta, and did the math . His lease allowed him a max of 20K/yr. The diesel saved him about $20/ tankful, but cost 5 grand more to start. So it would take 10-12 yrs to save his $ back in fuel savings...... he lives in Markham and works 15 minutes from home. His car would barely even warm up before he got to work. Not very good circumstances for buying a diesel.
He wanted one because I had such good luck with mine-however my girlfriend lived in Grand Bend, I lived in Brantford, and we saw eachother 5 day a week for 6 yrs. In the first 28 days I had the car, I popped a head gasket under warranty, and the dealer freaked out because I had driven 9700 kms in less than a month. I explained that I bought it to drive it. Diesel was less than 50 cents/litre at the time, so I was doing a two way drive to Grand Bend for less than $10....phone calls would cost more.
It was a good car for my needs, but not his. He ended up buying a gas jetta.
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For my experience, comparing the Ford V10 Triton
In 2000, the Ford V-10 had a 6.8 L engine with 310 horsepower at 4,250 rpm, powerful enough to tow large amounts. It also had a maximum torque of 425 foot-pounds at 3,450 rpm
The Ram is 240 HP @ 3600rpm
Torque 420 Ft Pounds at 2000RPM
If I rev'd the V10 to 3500 it's sounded like the motor would blow out the hood. I was afraid to hit 4200 The Eco D just seems to love to be around that 16-1700RPM window which is about half the revs. So not being a diesel or gas engine mechanic the Diesel seems happy at lower rev's, less engine stress and makes more torque.
I would say the engine works/rev's less to make more power. Which would in theory be easier on the motor. But I'm sure there is another reason. So comparing a V-10 Triton I loose 70 HP and five foot pounds of torque but the motor works half as hard, so doubling it's life span over a gas engine. Okay how far off am I?
I'm asking purely on the reliability front. It seems counter intuitive that a diesel should automatically have longer life. Are they just built to a higher standard? I know some people who have stupid high mileage on diesel trucks, it's sort of a badge of honour. I'd buy a super plain jane pickup with small diesel in a heart beat. I don't think we'll ever see that for $25thou?
That's because Ford screwed up everything after the old 7.3; I thought everyone knew Ford Powerstrokes were trouble.
Let's not forget that a good many of the Ford "mod motor" V8 gas engines are infamous for blowing spark plugs out of the head (2-valve) or seizing the lower part of the spark plug in the head leading to the spark plug breaking when attempting to remove it (3-valve). http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=62958
Every manufacturer has built their share of duds.
Why are you so annoying? The thread is titled 1500 Eco Diesel review. Not sunnyS's opinion on Ford over Ram. What you don't get is your attitude has diluted your opinion and nobody cares about what you say,,you're just ####### annoying! If you have no real life info on the eco diesel Go away! So you're good at using search engines!
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I have had a couple diesel vehicles and generally the diesel engine build just seems better than a gas engine. They seem to design them from an industrial application backwards to a car and they stand up pretty well. Other part in my experience the guys that buy diesel will put time and money as well into maintenance and repair and knowing whats at stake not drive around listening to a rattle get louder.
I`m not convinced that buying a diesel and looking at 20yr driving it would be your last vehicle. Other stuff surrounding the engine would go, electrics would give out, interior parts would give up. The engine would most likely survive all other parts.
The GM canyon colorado with a diesel will be on my radar but i fear it will be a 40k truck by the time its off the lot.
The more I look at the V-10 Triton in relation to the Eco Diesel,
6.8 liter 310 HP and 425 Ft Pounds of torque 10 Cyclinder compared to
3 liter 240 HP and 420 Ft Pounds of torque 6 cyclinder
In 15 years they have lost 3.8 liters but only lost 70 HP and 5 Ft Pounds of torque and the torque comes in on the 3 Liter 1450 RPM's less.
It's pretty amazing they can do this with smaller motors and build in fuel economy.
6.8 liter 310 HP and 425 Ft Pounds of torque 10 Cyclinder compared to
3 liter 240 HP and 420 Ft Pounds of torque 6 cyclinder
In 15 years they have lost 3.8 liters but only lost 70 HP and 5 Ft Pounds of torque and the torque comes in on the 3 Liter 1450 RPM's less.
It's pretty amazing they can do this with smaller motors and build in fuel economy.
I fear you may be correct but I have a friend who daily drives and maintains himself a 1991 Jeep Cherokee. Has he had issues? Sure but he's managed to keep her going. He also has from brand new a 1986 Porsche 911 Turbo. How is that for juxtaposition?
My Triton was awesome. It sucked fuel but was paid for. That was the exact problem. The engine and tranny were mint. I could drive the thing to an emmisions test and it would waltz thru it,330,000K. Trouble was the air condition blend door was jammed,dif was leaking. It needed it's third exhaust,it third battery and alternator.Had to pull the cab and do the exhaust studs a few years back.The bed under the liner was gone, speakers were shot,electric lock motors were shot,window motors were shot, the truck was falling apart around the motor. Yes some original TLC by the first owner would extend that which is what I'm hoping with this new truck.
Roomie
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hahahahahaha your trolling is becoming better by the day lol. If I make a website stating that lada makes the best vehicles ever and you read it online would that be your new gospel?
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Dyam!!!
To be get told by Bickle is very odd. I don't think I have ever seen him scold anyone on this forum (I am open to being corrected)
carry on...lol
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