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This. Both logic and the law are pretty clear on what the steel-thrower had for options if he didn't like the slower moving vehicle. Throwing **** wasn't on that list of options



And this is why so many people have no sympathy for dead bikers that meet their maker after riding like a ********. I know you understand little, but do you understand that? Difference being, you don't have the right to terrorize and endanger people by tailgating them. There is no justification for brake-checking either, so the only way I'd like to see that story end is to add some jail time to the assailant. yes. left-lane hoggers suck and are annoying, but so are about a hundred other "types" of people on our roads. Grow the **** up and get used to driving; the world owes you nothing, not the least of which being a nice, wide open passing lane. Stop whining already.
I think you need an anger management course, or if someone brake check you it might end up badly

You cursed and insulted, so you must be right and extremely intelligent
 
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So during the news yesterday (channel 8) they had viewers call with their "road rage" experiences, this guy calls to complaint he was a victim of road rage. Turns out he was slowly driving on the passing lane, he brake checked the guy behind him (Tail Gatting) and almost made him crash - the other guy got him to stop and beat the crap out of him (long story short).

Sorry but I said to myself "Good" I have no sympathy for that kind of crap - the amazing part is that he still saw himself as the victim when he caused the issue

I have to ask , what is your view on 172? Yes, I'll be illustrating my point shortly, but humor me.
 
I think you need an anger management course, or if someone brake check you it might end up badly

You cursed and insulted, so you must be right and extremely intelligent

What are you talking about? Do you make sense to yourself at least? Did you read my post? I thought not
 
While this isn't a murder issue, people do commit murder while in a blind rage, people so livid with anger that consequences are not considered.

Ever happen to you?

The person you are affecting by breaking the law may also be willing to up the game by breaking the law even more. Don't play God.

The good news is that it appears that there are no permanent injuries.
 
it really does not matter AT ALL what the car in front may/may not have done to provoke the truck. You cant throw stuff at other vehicles. The guy should be removed from the roads for a LONG time. Do people snap? Yes and it ends just like this, now he gets to go to court and a judge can hear both sides of the story . There is little evidence to show his actions were not malicious and dangerous and intentional and I hope it costs him his license for a few years.
 
For everyone who is seemingly justifying this ******'s actions, saying he must have been provoked by the minivan somehow, imagine what would have happened if instead of a family in a minivan it had been someone on a bike. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the pickup driver deliberately ramming the bike. Then everyone here would be calling for this guy's head on a platter.
No matter what the provocation may or may not have been, nothing justifies what he did. He was not in any danger, he had plenty of options to remove himself from the situation. But because he's just another of the millions of rather stupid people out there who believe they're entitled to whatever it is they want and resort to toddler tantrums with adult consequences when they don't get it, he's now looking at some serious time. And for what? To be one one car length ahead?
 
For everyone who is seemingly justifying this ******'s actions, saying he must have been provoked by the minivan somehow, imagine what would have happened if instead of a family in a minivan it had been someone on a bike. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the pickup driver deliberately ramming the bike. Then everyone here would be calling for this guy's head on a platter.
No matter what the provocation may or may not have been, nothing justifies what he did. He was not in any danger, he had plenty of options to remove himself from the situation. But because he's just another of the millions of rather stupid people out there who believe they're entitled to whatever it is they want and resort to toddler tantrums with adult consequences when they don't get it, he's now looking at some serious time. And for what? To be one one car length ahead?

+1

There is absolutely NO justification for throwing something at another vehicle... Unless the scenario involved the driver of the other car pointing a gun at him and he was being a bad*** movie hero and trying to knock it out of his/her hand...Highly doubt this was the case.
 
Hey, can he get off on an 11b, if we all fight our tickets, and jam the courts?
Or is it a different court because of the seriousness?


I know someone who fights every ticket.
He's gotten really good at it, as he might get a dozen or so tickets per year.
He juggles the ones he's going to lose, so that his insurance doesn't go up.
I'm really bad at fighting them, as I get one every 5-10 years now.


The thing is that for some of his, he's dependent on lots of people like myself, going in and fighting.


Oh, and he considers himself a much better driver. They're just out to get him.
 
Hey, can he get off on an 11b, if we all fight our tickets, and jam the courts?
Or is it a different court because of the seriousness?


I know someone who fights every ticket.
He's gotten really good at it, as he might get a dozen or so tickets per year.
He juggles the ones he's going to lose, so that his insurance doesn't go up.
I'm really bad at fighting them, as I get one every 5-10 years now.


The thing is that for some of his, he's dependent on lots of people like myself, going in and fighting.


Oh, and he considers himself a much better driver. They're just out to get him.

As was previously noted none of the listed charges are under the HTA. They're CRIMINAL charges. That's the sort of thing that can screw you up for life. No passing security checks. Can't be bonded. Can and likely will be denied access at the American border (whether he's ultimately found guilty or not).
 
As was previously noted none of the listed charges are under the HTA. They're CRIMINAL charges. That's the sort of thing that can screw you up for life. No passing security checks. Can't be bonded. Can and likely will be denied access at the American border (whether he's ultimately found guilty or not).

Since he can retain his license maybe they'll let him drive the prison pickup truck around the grounds of Maplehurst, picking up garbage.

Will not be traffic court and it may be years before he gets convicted / sentenced in criminal. Going to be rough on his social status, family, finances, job (Assuming he gets out on bail and tries to go back to work).
 
I know it's heavy because it's described as a piece of scrap steel the size of an adult's hand, which struck with enough force to break tempered auto glass (side window). Entitled ********** seem to achieve their goals, so I'm pretty sure that he managed what was described.


Well, you know its heavy because the police said so. That isn't good enough for me. The police said it is the size of an adult hand? Is that a metric or imperial units? I know that in 2006 the police said that two street racers driving at a 150 Kph killed Lisa and Rob Manchester. That was a lie created by the Police and supported by the Media and politicians to justify the street racing law being proposed at the time.

http://www.wheels.ca/a-hard-look-at-the-street-racing-law/

As it turns out the so called street racers were not doing anywhere near 150 and Manchester was almost 3 times the legal B.A.C. So when the police say something subjective like "the size of an adult hand" And from the National Post "The way it’s been described, it’s like a piece of scrap metal. But honestly, even investigators are at a loss as to what it actually is." So when the Police don't know what it is and they use vague descriptions of what was thrown, I say BS.
 
It matters not if it was a box of Kleenex that got tossed, it blew out a glass window and showered glass on some kids and could have ended much worse. The culprit is a first class idiot. What difference does the size of the tossed object make? No idea what assault with a weapon to harm has to do with 172?
 
As it turns out the so called street racers were not doing anywhere near 150 and Manchester was almost 3 times the legal B.A.C. So when the police say something subjective like "the size of an adult hand" And from the National Post "The way it’s been described, it’s like a piece of scrap metal. But honestly, even investigators are at a loss as to what it actually is." So when the Police don't know what it is and they use vague descriptions of what was thrown, I say BS.

We need a law with teeth that the police can use at the side of the road at their discretion that deals with road rage. Where's Michael Bryant when you need him?



Wait, he used his car as a weapon to kill someone in a road rage incident. Nevermind.
 
Well, you know its heavy because the police said so. That isn't good enough for me. The police said it is the size of an adult hand? Is that a metric or imperial units? I know that in 2006 the police said that two street racers driving at a 150 Kph killed Lisa and Rob Manchester. That was a lie created by the Police and supported by the Media and politicians to justify the street racing law being proposed at the time.

http://www.wheels.ca/a-hard-look-at-the-street-racing-law/

As it turns out the so called street racers were not doing anywhere near 150 and Manchester was almost 3 times the legal B.A.C. So when the police say something subjective like "the size of an adult hand" And from the National Post "The way it’s been described, it’s like a piece of scrap metal. But honestly, even investigators are at a loss as to what it actually is." So when the Police don't know what it is and they use vague descriptions of what was thrown, I say BS.

You're making connections between the two events when the only one that exists is the word "police."
 
You're making connections between the two events when the only one that exists is the word "police."


No Rob. I'm not just focusing on the Police, I'm blaming the media and politicians also. The connection as you say, is the police and media in the Manchester case lied about the speeds involved, lied about the drivers racing and forgot to mention that Manchester was drunk(almost 3x.) The police in the Hepburn case say it was a steel block then a piece of scrape metal, then they say they don't really know what it was. Then the media say the kids were injured. Then another story says they were treated at the scene by EMS. Glass fragments(blunt) and glass shards(sharp) are interchanged and both used in various stories. I'm not condoning throwing things out of windows, but I can't tolerate sensationalistic press releases by the police so they can increase their budgets to combat the carnage created by the pandemic increase in the cases of road rage. Sarcasm mode off.
 
No Rob. I'm not just focusing on the Police, I'm blaming the media and politicians also. The connection as you say, is the police and media in the Manchester case lied about the speeds involved, lied about the drivers racing and forgot to mention that Manchester was drunk(almost 3x.) The police in the Hepburn case say it was a steel block then a piece of scrape metal, then they say they don't really know what it was. Then the media say the kids were injured. Then another story says they were treated at the scene by EMS. Glass fragments(blunt) and glass shards(sharp) are interchanged and both used in various stories. I'm not condoning throwing things out of windows, but I can't tolerate sensationalistic press releases by the police so they can increase their budgets to combat the carnage created by the pandemic increase in the cases of road rage. Sarcasm mode off.

Then I suggest that you put aside your personal prejudices that are making you take one incident, then make it indicative of all.
 
Then I suggest that you put aside your personal prejudices that are making you take one incident, then make it indicative of all.

Is that what you get from his post?
Many years ago I was at the scene of an incident, in person, present and accounted for, bright eyed and bushy tailed faculties firing on all cylinders. On reading newspaper coverage next day, I had to seriously rejig the whole concept of news reporting. That was only one incidence many years ago but every news report henceforth is viewed with the jaundiced eye it's deserving of. BS baffles brains.
 

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