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HOV lane ticket
- Thread starter ashkan
- Start date
Julz
Well-known member
You could simply indicate it was a mistake and see if the adjudicator lets you off with a warning. On the other hand the ticket is a moving violation, nothing serious. I would reckon it's the same as making a left/right at the wrong time it's not a bad ticket. I would not be worried about it affecting your insurance.
ashkan
Banned
Thanks Rider17 but im doing some research and its not looking too good insurancewise :S
JFD
Well-known member
Is that what you're planning on telling the judge? He/She may laugh.
If your insurance is high already you may want to get a ticket fighter, though it's a case of either you did it or you didn't...it's not something you can argue down like a speed ticket...
Good luck dude...
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/archiv...e-ticket-(in-my-car)-does-it-effect-insurance
Some other reading I came across lead me to this:
If it is a City of Toronto bylaw ticket (eg. the HOV lanes on Bay Street, Don Mills, etc), it does not affect points or insurance at all. If it is an Ontario Highway Traffic Act ticket (eg. the HOV lanes on DVP, 403, etc), then it does affect points and insurance.
Some other reading I came across lead me to this:
If it is a City of Toronto bylaw ticket (eg. the HOV lanes on Bay Street, Don Mills, etc), it does not affect points or insurance at all. If it is an Ontario Highway Traffic Act ticket (eg. the HOV lanes on DVP, 403, etc), then it does affect points and insurance.
i am curious on what grounds you think you can "fight" the charge?
ashkan
Banned
Im not really going to fight it. I guess ill jus hope the cop wont show but apparently they all do now. Also, i just wanted to know how it would affect my insurance
Still think going and speaking with the adjudicator might let you off, as warning.
ashkan
Banned
Really hope youre right. But have you heard of anyone being let off with a warning for an HOV offense?
-D-
Banned
Dude, go fight it.
They might just toss out the ticket because they have more pressing cases.
btw- Did your bike have solo seat cowl on it, because if it did you are at 100% capacity. You can try that as a defense if nothing else (yes, ignorance of the law, but you sound plausible). You can also ask the Crown to drop the points (if any) and they will also lower the fine.
If you do go through the process of the trial, you can ask the Judge to reduce the fine (they usually will) and state you are a student or having economical hardship. They will ask if you can pay it in 30 days, ask for 90 days. They will grant it.
E.g. your fine is $100 they can knock it down to $50 and 90 days to pay. You might as well drag it out. The HOV exclusion of bikes is unsafe and stupid imo.
Do NOT plead guilty (or guilty with explanation) unless the Crown gives you a deal that you accept.
Good luck
JFD
Well-known member
just how long were you in the lane before you noticed the cop...that'll play into your arguement. Cuz if you use an excuse, all the cop needs do is say how long you were in there, where he saw you etc, and you're done and lost all credibility cuz you lied to the judge (they're not idiots).
You're best off asking for reduced fine. You're guilty, there's no way around it.
Depending on how long you were actually in the lane, you could've said you swerved to avoid stopped traffic and the HOV was clear (assuming you were on 404 since bikes are allowed in muni lanes)...but again, you could end off looking like a liar and piss off the judge.
You're best off asking for reduced fine. You're guilty, there's no way around it.
Depending on how long you were actually in the lane, you could've said you swerved to avoid stopped traffic and the HOV was clear (assuming you were on 404 since bikes are allowed in muni lanes)...but again, you could end off looking like a liar and piss off the judge.
ashkan
Banned
Thanks for the thorough reply -D-. It is absolutely stupid why insurance should be affected by this. I get that its against the law and therefore should be a ticket but it doesnt endanger anyone in any awy including th erider. If anything, its a safer lane. So i really dont get why insurance has to be affected. its such a scam.
I will fight it however, even if i get it reduced, the insurance will still go up regardless (from what i understand, any ticke that you pay and be convicted of will raise your insurance no matter how minor), I really need to avoid that if i can in anyawy. The cops show up most of the time now so thats not really an option to count on. Im hoping to find some kind of a loophole here
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