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GreyGhost

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whatever riots there are now will be nothing compared to what will happen once evictions start
I haven't seen a government anywhere attempt to address that landmine. They keep delaying evictions but have no plan on how to solve it at the end. The landlords all expect tenants to catch up on missed rent, tenants all expect that this whole period was rent-free. Neither option works in the real world. The best solution I can come up with is a gov't loan to tenants repayable over 10 years or so (maybe similar to commercial, landlord gets a cheque shortly from gov't for 75% and loses 25% but their alternative is realistically zero).
 

PrivatePilot

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What was said: You can't be evicted if you can't pay your rent.

What many renters heard: Woohoo, I don't have to pay rent, gonna buy that 75" bigscreen and those new rims for the car.

At no point did anyone say you're never going to have to pay it, just that in the short term you're not going to get kicked out if you can't when this all began.
 

GreyGhost

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What was said: You can't be evicted if you can't pay your rent.

What many renters heard: Woohoo, I don't have to pay rent, gonna buy that 75" bigscreen and those new rims for the car.

At no point did anyone say you're never going to have to pay it, just that in the short term you're not going to get kicked out if you can't when this all began.
Auditing "can't" is very hard. Whatever solution they come up with likely has to include all people that did not pay their rent during this mess and force all landlords to either comply or forfeit the right to pursue the tenant for the missing payments. Courts are going to be basically useless for quite a while and will have no capacity for tens of thousands of civil suits over rent payments that tenants will never pay even with a judgement.
 

nobbie48

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I haven't seen a government anywhere attempt to address that landmine. They keep delaying evictions but have no plan on how to solve it at the end. The landlords all expect tenants to catch up on missed rent, tenants all expect that this whole period was rent-free. Neither option works in the real world. The best solution I can come up with is a gov't loan to tenants repayable over 10 years or so (maybe similar to commercial, landlord gets a cheque shortly from gov't for 75% and loses 25% but their alternative is realistically zero).
I can't recall where it was posted but basically people were getting shamed for using CERB funds for less than practical stuff and there was a backlash because everyone has the right to do as they choose blah blah blah.

What irks the crap out of me is that no one ever talks about responsibility. Rights, rights, rights but for every right someone else has to be responsible.
 

jc100

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I haven't seen a government anywhere attempt to address that landmine. They keep delaying evictions but have no plan on how to solve it at the end. The landlords all expect tenants to catch up on missed rent, tenants all expect that this whole period was rent-free. Neither option works in the real world. The best solution I can come up with is a gov't loan to tenants repayable over 10 years or so (maybe similar to commercial, landlord gets a cheque shortly from gov't for 75% and loses 25% but their alternative is realistically zero).
Riots in rural communities aren’t really an issue....but in inner cities they are and evictions will affect the poorest in society who, in the inner cities, are usually black. Trump already has his fed cops on the ground It’s going to be a long year.
 

Baggsy

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Riots in rural communities aren’t really an issue....but in inner cities they are and evictions will affect the poorest in society who, in the inner cities, are usually black. Trump already has his fed cops on the ground It’s going to be a long year.
Are U.S. cities that different from ours? If you look at Toronto, it's not the poorest who live in the inner city, it's the richest. I believe that New York is the same.
 

backmarkerducati

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Are U.S. cities that different from ours? If you look at Toronto, it's not the poorest who live in the inner city, it's the richest. I believe that New York is the same.
Yes many US cities have the poorest people in the inner city, Canada not so much, we can go at length why...socioeconomic, highway infrastructure, transit, etc.

Regardless housing projects tend to be inner city, even in many Canadian cities. In the US and specifically NYC Manhattan may be pretty rich but get into the surrounding boroughs which themselves are pretty big cities, the inner areas are pretty poor.

Inner city also does not mean beside city hall, but near the core.
 
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sburns

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Are U.S. cities that different from ours? If you look at Toronto, it's not the poorest who live in the inner city, it's the richest. I believe that New York is the same.
Yes they are very different. Lots of gated communities, and shops closing in the afternoon with metal barriers (seen this in Chicago and parts of Florida). Not prevalent around Toronto. Also in the US you know if you are in the "wrong" side of town. Here it's pretty safe everywhere.

Toronto kicked out the poor people from Regent park, and redeveloped it for mixed income use, but most can't come back as they can't afford it anymore. Toronto does have a low income property problem, it's not just a media headline. Difficult to tackle because the cost of living and the special interests around development don't align.
 

jc100

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Are U.S. cities that different from ours? If you look at Toronto, it's not the poorest who live in the inner city, it's the richest. I believe that New York is the same.
what about the poorest people in those inner cities?
 

BigEvilDoer

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Go check out Baltimore.
Monday-Thursday, the homeless move into the downtown area.
Thursday evening, the police move in and move the homeless about 4 blocks away from downtown, each and every week.
Get a hotel 5 blocks away from downtown, you'll hear/witness tons of gun fights between homies or homies and cops.
4 Blocks away, it's quiet.
Weekends (Friday-Sunday) it's quiet and tourist friendly in the core and in Fell's point.
Otherwise, it's street justice...
 

nobbie48

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I haven't seen a government anywhere attempt to address that landmine. They keep delaying evictions but have no plan on how to solve it at the end. The landlords all expect tenants to catch up on missed rent, tenants all expect that this whole period was rent-free. Neither option works in the real world. The best solution I can come up with is a gov't loan to tenants repayable over 10 years or so (maybe similar to commercial, landlord gets a cheque shortly from gov't for 75% and loses 25% but their alternative is realistically zero).
Has any elected government ever told anyone with a vote that there's no more?

What equity does the average renter have that a landlord could go after? As you suggest, next to nothing and quite possibly less than zero after legal costs.

Aggressive investors in real estate use leverage and a 25% loss might not be bearable. It could get complicated but some tax relief over a number of years could help.

In my heart I'm a socialist but I also feel most people are garbage dump bears, taking the easiest way out. What happens when they close the dump?
 

TK4

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Donald Trump took a quick trip to Rome to show his concern for the Pope:

"I met with Pope Francis today. He's a really great pope — great, great pope.
You know he's the leader of the Catholic Church — big church.
“I couldn't believe it when he told me how many Catholics there are. Way more than I thought. They have churches all over the world; some are very, very close (so close) to my hotels and golf courses. He tells me he’s elected for life, probably copying that xi guy in China. Fantastic idea, though.
Fantastic. It turns out the pope is a lot like me, you never see him with his wife.
“He told me he’s infallible. I said that’s great, you’ll never have to worry about breaking a hip. And told me about a Mary Magdalene, beautiful girl, beautiful. I asked him for her number. Didn’t catch his answer. I’m told he said it in Latin. I give the guy credit because he doesn’t look Latino.
"He took me into the Sistine Chapel. Beautiful ceiling. Not the usual white stucco stuff. I don't think too many people even know about this place. The paintings are great, I'm telling you. Lots of colors.
“The Pope (great guy, by the way, knows more about the Bible than almost anybody — we got along great, I think he really likes me) told me the whole thing was painted by this young Italian. I think he’s from Los Angeles because his name is Mike L Angelo.
“At least that's what Francis (we're great friends) called him, I think. Trust me, we're going to hear more about this guy. He's really artistic, and everybody tells me I have the greatest eye for the best art. It’s natural, just like my incredible understanding of science. All the renowned scientists say they can’t believe it.
“I told Frank I'd like to buy some of Mike's art. I asked if Mike’s done anything on velvet. He'll check (great guy). I'll hang his stuff at Mar-a-Lago or Trump Tower. This Mike guy needs more exposure. He's too much with the churches.
“He could paint my presidential portrait on the Capitol Dome. Or maybe a mural on my big, beautiful border wall; but just on our side.
“When we left, the pope gave me a bible. Huge book. (Huge.) I told him I have the full set. You get one for free every time you take a porn star to a hotel room.”

[pauses]
“Unbelievable. Just heard. The lamestream media is at it again. Fake news. (Fake news.) I just saw something on TV. They claim Mike the painter died 450 years ago. Sad. I’ve already got people looking into this and you won’t believe what they’re finding.”
 

J_F

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looks like his eyes are rolled back in ecstasy
don't really wanna guess what's going through his mind

must be a Popsicle right?
he's a Republican
must be a Popsicle
 

regder

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Today, former presidential candidate, Herman Cain passed away today from Covid. Possibly contracting it at Trump's Oklahoma rally on June 20th. Governor of Oklahoma that was sitting beside him has contracted it as well.

 
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