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Ouch.

Gah. As a "muscle car" fan that hurts to see. Looks like some work to be done.

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Mclaren P1 got washed out of a garage too. Much automotive sadness (although for those holding survivors, value just went up). Guy also lost a RR ghost in the same garage.

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Gah. As a "muscle car" fan that hurts to see. Looks like some work to be done.

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Presumably they were under salt water to end up in that condition. Do you take it on the chin and pay for the complete restoration yourself to keep title clean? Do you tell yourself that the restoration was thorough enough that being submerged in saltwater has been undone and therefore you are under no obligation to disclose? If insurance touches it, numbers matching barely matters as it will have a salvage title and a flood car has trouble selling for much (relative to a clean title car).
 
The cost of a proper restore on that now may be the same as the drop since it was flooded . I’d get it cleaned up and decide if i wanted it or move it along .
The very lucky part is there are no power seats , windows , any electonics onboard so a complete wire harness isn’t much more complicated than a farm tractor .
That’s what really kills modern flood cars , electric brakes , abs , all that stuff is many thousands and it quits months/years after the flood


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Get ready for an influx of southern US cars into our used car market, possibly via the Quebec registrations.
 
Uncle had a 'Cuda fastback. Thing was in the shop more than out.
 
I have a place 1.5 miles back from Ft Myers Beach, the area looks like Russian were camping there for a while. We're lucky, no damage other than sand, mud.

Gonna head down in 2 weeks to assess the damage.

Will be a lot of free boats around, might get lucky and find the diesels I've been dreaming about.
 
A news program showed wrecked boats and one very large yacht ($ Million) and the home port was Midland Ontario.
 
There will be literally hundreds of write off boats , FLA has a whole industry built around salvage, since its sort of a regular occurence.

For some of you folks that like boats, trailering or going south on its own bottom , make sure you actualkly have insurance. My current boat is uninsured if I leave the great lakes. Aquaintance took a boat to the Bahamas, wrecked it and was not covered.
 
There will be literally hundreds of write off boats , FLA has a whole industry built around salvage, since its sort of a regular occurence.

For some of you folks that like boats, trailering or going south on its own bottom , make sure you actualkly have insurance. My current boat is uninsured if I leave the great lakes. Aquaintance took a boat to the Bahamas, wrecked it and was not covered.
I know people here that don't insure their boats. 'What can happen? There's a lot of water. I'll be fine.'
 
I know people here that don't insure their boats. 'What can happen? There's a lot of water. I'll be fine.'
I tried not to as boat is relatively cheap but I couldn't get liability only for a boat on my homeowners policy and a standalone boat policy would have cost far more.
 
I know people here that don't insure their boats. 'What can happen? There's a lot of water. I'll be fine.'
Lots dont and if its a 10ft tin boat with 7.5hp , you wont likely get into a lot of trouble. Until you do.
Having seen the bill when a boat sinks tied to a dock, or sank by an idiot marina operator (our race boat 2002), the sacriest is the environmental bill is there is a gas/oil leak into the environment.
Or have your 12yr old tooling around looking at the cool yachts in the marina and rub up against a 60ft power boat and find that scratch is worth $16K .
I insure everything.
 
There will be literally hundreds of write off boats , FLA has a whole industry built around salvage, since its sort of a regular occurence.

For some of you folks that like boats, trailering or going south on its own bottom , make sure you actualkly have insurance. My current boat is uninsured if I leave the great lakes. Aquaintance took a boat to the Bahamas, wrecked it and was not covered.
One of the fellows I work with used to salvage boats for insurance companies. They'd pay him a fee to remove the boat, which avoided freelance salvagers from raping boat owners and insurers (think of boat salvagers like highway towtruck drivers). He got to keep many of the boats he salvaged in exchange for the fees.

Not easy work, and certainly not steady -- but right now if you have a flatbed and an excavator there's gold everywhere.
 
Lots dont and if its a 10ft tin boat with 7.5hp , you wont likely get into a lot of trouble. Until you do.
Having seen the bill when a boat sinks tied to a dock, or sank by an idiot marina operator (our race boat 2002), the sacriest is the environmental bill is there is a gas/oil leak into the environment.
Or have your 12yr old tooling around looking at the cool yachts in the marina and rub up against a 60ft power boat and find that scratch is worth $16K .
I insure everything.
'Not my kid, keep them' and bolt.
 
Lots dont and if its a 10ft tin boat with 7.5hp , you wont likely get into a lot of trouble. Until you do.
Having seen the bill when a boat sinks tied to a dock, or sank by an idiot marina operator (our race boat 2002), the sacriest is the environmental bill is there is a gas/oil leak into the environment.
Or have your 12yr old tooling around looking at the cool yachts in the marina and rub up against a 60ft power boat and find that scratch is worth $16K .
I insure everything.
About 20 years ago there was a fire at Holland River Marina and it took out a complete covered dock. IIRC the owners of the boats that sank got five figure bills to cover the environmental clean up.

One owner let his insurance temporarily lapse because he was due for a haul out survey and he figure he'd save a few bucks by waiting for it to be done after haul out. Nothing for his boat plus the clean up.

Covered slips are great but in case of a fire it goes up, hits the metal roof and spreads sideways taking out the whole dock in minutes. One owner was below and heard "FIRE", went out and tried to move his boat but his canvas was on fire before he could untie the lines.

Ditto on insurance. Hit a swimmer or fisherman and let the insurer fight it out in court.
 
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My buddy with the uninsured boat got a message that his boat left his dock and was found by a neighbour on the other side of the lake floating about.

Neighbour towed it back and secured it. Luckily it didn’t hit anything or get stopped by OPP.

I’ve never seen OPP on the smaller lakes.
 
The OPP tend to hit the hot spots and problem places with the police boat presence. We never saw one in 40yrs on our old lake , but there was no public boat ramp so access was harder. Lots of smaller lakes will never see OPP boats . Places like Honey Harbour or Midland , they are there all the time


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About 20 years ago there was a fire at Holland River Marina and it took out a complete covered dock. IIRC the owners of the boats that sank got five figure bills to cover the environmental clean up.

One owner let his insurance temporarily lapse because he was due for a haul out survey and he figure he'd save a few bucks by waiting for it to be done after haul out. Nothing for his boat plus the clean up.

Covered slips are great but in case of a fire it goes up, hits the metal roof and spreads sideways taking out the whole dock in minutes. One owner was below and heard "FIRE", went out and tried to move his boat but his canvas was on fire before he could untie the lines.

Ditto on insurance. Hit a swimmer or fisherman and let the insurer fight it out in court.
I remember that fire, it was around this time of year in 1999, I was living in Holland Landing and kept a boar at Albert's the next marina down the river. I doubt many owners in that marina had insurance.

While the marinas along the Holland River are reasonably nice, they are mostly floating trailer parks. When that fire happened, a lot of the boats in there rarely if ever left their slips. Wasn't that way before 1990 when they reduced the speed limit on the river to 9kmh. The trip from the marinas went from 15 minutes to an hour and it's a bug-infested swamp. I remember rescuing a buddy, the CG patched his radio thru to me -- it was 1AM and the passengers in the boat were repeatedly screaming to bring bug spray (the CG guys were having a hoot, laughing out loud as they listened in. When they signed off, they reminded me - don't forget the bug spray).

I suspect they cut the river speed to reduce erosion -- kinda stupid as the old 20-30' scows plowing that river throw-up monster wakes at 9 - much less when up on a plane.
 

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