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Crossing solid yellow lines

Ghostrider619

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I see people driving between 2 wide yellow lines on the left to take a left turn when traffic going forward is backed up. No marking of left turn arrows between the lines but wide enough that a car can drive between it safely. Is this legal or is it still considered crossing a double yellow line ?
 
A quick google search confirmed my impression that solid yellow lines are guides, not legally enforceable rules. In Ontario only.
I'm not saying anyone should pass on a solid yellow, so please don't flame me people.

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Road markings are guidelines, hopefully put down with some logic applied, you won't get a ticket for it if you are making a safe and legal maneuver outside of the lane markings and if left turns are forbidden from the paved centre median it will say so. Still might be dangerous but not outright illegal.
 
I see people driving between 2 wide yellow lines on the left to take a left turn when traffic going forward is backed up. No marking of left turn arrows between the lines but wide enough that a car can drive between it safely. Is this legal or is it still considered crossing a double yellow line ?

As previously said, yellow signs and road markings are considered 'suggestions'. White road markings and signs are enforceable.
 
I’ve wondered this as well. Say I wait in the through traffic lane until the turn lane actually starts, signal and merge into the turn lane, and get hit from behind in the process. Who is at fault? The driver who was already in the lane before it started, me for not checking the lane is clear before entering, 50/50 fault?

There is a spot similar to this scenario on southbound Dufferin and Bloor. Two lanes - outside lane turns into a right turn only lane and then the left lane splits into two through lanes. Cars will speed down the right turn lane and then drive across the solid white line into the new through lane. I probably see a near collision because of this at least once a week.
 
... and get hit from behind...
You answered your own question :/ they are not allowed to run over the motorcycles under any circumstance, that would either be failure to be in control of the vehicle or just plain stupid.
 
Isn't the person who rear ends you always at fault?
Not necessarily, depends on circumstances and what you can prove.
 
An unsafe lane change at much lower speed, in front of an approaching vehicle going much faster in the adjacent lane, is an example of the vehicle that was hit from behind being responsible for the collision.
 
If you're going fast enough you'll get sideswiped by the vehicle cutting in line, then it's not your fault.
 
An unsafe lane change at much lower speed, in front of an approaching vehicle going much faster in the adjacent lane, is an example of the vehicle that was hit from behind being responsible for the collision.
Not so sure about this one, the person making the lane change has to give way to oncoming traffic in an adjacent lane. The person in the lane has right of way. Yes now we get into the nuances of where the impact occurred. However, if we can prove the vehicle already in the lane had no chance of avoiding impact "cut off" we may have some room for no or shared fault.

EDIT: I fail, disregard.
 
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Not so sure about this one, the person making the lane change has to give way to oncoming traffic in an adjacent lane. The person in the lane has right of way. Yes now we get into the nuances of where the impact occurred. However, if we can prove the vehicle already in the lane had no chance of avoiding impact "cut off" we may have some room for no or shared fault.

I think you're reading his post wrong.
He is saying in that incident.. the lane changer would be at fault.
 
I think you're reading his post wrong.
He is saying in that incident.. the lane changer would be at fault.
Good catch! Selective reading strikes again!
 
Although not marked as such, (because it is a busy road and there are too many turns, into businesses etc), but it is a left turn lane. Personally, IF I were to ride, (for more than say 100'), I would do so at or less than the traffic flowing in the lane to my right. This is because no one EXPECTS, a vehicle to be "driving" along in the left turn lane, and as such they are even less likely to do a shoulder check, then they normally would, (so basically NEVER...lol)

If seen by a cop, (who is hungry for a ticket, especially if your travelling faster than the surrounding traffic), could throw a S 172 charge your way. I would have to scour the HTA to see if there is a specific charge for driving in that lane, although a pretty good defense would be I was just about to make a left turn into XYZ business when the officer stopped me.
 
Super common in Toronto for some reason. People will even block the oncoming traffic lane to line up for a left rather than block their own live lane for some reason. I actually emailed the police for advice on how to deal with this and mentioned that even their officers do it. They didn't reply but I didn't really expect them to.
 
An unsafe lane change at much lower speed, in front of an approaching vehicle going much faster in the adjacent lane, is an example of the vehicle that was hit from behind being responsible for the collision.
Exact thing happened to me on Markham Rd last year. I drove my pickup over the rear quarter of a Civic, the Civic driver was charged with careless and distracted driving.

3 years ago a new driver rolled too far into the intersection at Hwy and Kennedy while trying to stop for a red. She put her F150 into reverse and hammered the gas instead of the brake, her bumper ended up on the windshield of my wife's car.
 

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