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[bigslimjim]

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Re: Well, this will help the motorcycle image in Toronto!

Thanks for reiterating how a minor fender bender happens.

"You figured" and "you guess" meaning you don't know, started making assumptions, and made a story out of it with no doubt a few exaggerations here and there.

you are too much man, you need to stop taking life so literaly... so please explain to me what makes it okay for them to block 3 out of 4 lanes of the highway for 30 minutes on a fender bender when the laws are clearly STEER IT CLEAR

 

[Rob MacLennan]

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did you hear me say im better than anyone else? so stop trying to act macho lol im sure you can beat me I never said im better than anybody on here im just flabbergasted by the fact that this whole thread is nothing but you guys badmouthing other riders. stand up for the community not bash them

When part of "the community" is acting like a bunch of scofflaws, there's no need to stand up for them. They have divorced themselves from the community. Should the political Right be standing up for a bunch of guys marching around with Nazi flags, clubs, and guns, or have they jumped the shark?

 

[bigpoppa]

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Thats ok slimjim, keep breaking laws, when the OPP is done with you, you gonna be getting conjugal visits from Tyrone and big Abdullah

 

[PLau]

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Thanks for reiterating how a minor fender bender happens.

"You figured" and "you guess" meaning you don't know, started making assumptions, and made a story out of it with no doubt a few exaggerations here and there.

Also, where did you get your information that the firetruck is required to stay on scene for a full 30 mins? I didn't realize they were paid by the hour. Please elaborate.



These meets typically don't happen in the middle of a major highway and stop traffic?

you are too much man, you need to stop taking life so literaly... so please explain to me what makes it okay for them to block 3 out of 4 lanes of the highway for 30 minutes on a fender bender when the laws are clearly STEER IT CLEAR

Brought up my previous post due to edited additions.

You're telling a story based of eye-witness "facts", yet you're "guessing" and "figured things" (while you were absent). Just trying to figure how you come up with your information.

Steer it and clear it applies to the general public (motorists), not emergency vehicles?

I ASSUME that your assumption of first responder's pay is also an assumption?

 

[bigslimjim]

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Brought up my previous post due to edited additions.

You're telling a story based of eye-witness "facts", yet you're "guessing" and "figured things" (while you were absent). Just trying to figure how you come up with your information.

Steer it and clear it applies to the general public (motorists), not emergency vehicles?

I honestly have no idea what youre talking about anymore. lol but sure whatever you say buddy

 

[PLau]

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sigh... everything with you has to be so technical. I was in my balcony having a smoke and there was stalled traffic and one car rolled into the guy in front of him literaly ROLLED into him and they pulled over to the shoulder, the traffic died down and the rest of the cars were moving at a good pace again and I figured okay these guys are going to exchange info and get going but I look out of my balcony again 10 minutes later and there is a firetruck blocking 3 out of the 4 lanes and cops and ambulance on scene talking to both drivers. my guess is they couldn't come to a conclusion on whos fault it was and decided to call the cops. the firetruck was on scene for a full 30 minutes because they are required to stay for the duration that they are getting payed for. sorry if this story doesn't meet your criteria of critisizm

I honestly have no idea what youre talking about anymore. lol but sure whatever you say buddy

Please, let me jog your memory by bringing up your post from 20 mins ago.

 

[hedo2002]

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Wrong again there is NO steer it clear law.. Feel free to post the section of the HTA, that details it. It is a SUGGESTION, not to mention by your own story the drivers did indeed steer their vehicles to the shoulder of the road as is SUGGESTED.

Secondly, you obviously have little to no knowledge of the HTA or the rules around reporting of an accident. Given you were on your balcony, I assume you were able to determine if anyone sustained even a minor injury? If so the law requires the accident to reported. You were also able, to determine the level of damage? If one of the vehicles were an expensive vehicle, a simple bumper replacement can easily exceed the threshold for being required to report the collision. Also, you were able to determine, if either of the vehicles were either a rental, or a company vehicle, (which may require the operator to report a collision)..

Or perhaps the one driver noted the other had been drinking or appeared to be intoxicated, by alcohol or drugs??

The fire truck blocks lanes to prevent, other idiots from driving into an active collision scene and putting EMS and police at risk of death or serious injury. The fire trucks do NOT have to remain, as you suggest "because they are paid to" they remain only as long as officers request, or until a contracted MTO blocker vehicle can arrive on scene

Now for those of us without your outstanding observation powers, why there is no difference between two drivers calling 911 to report an incident, AFTER removing their vehicles from live lanes and as such NOT blocking ANY live lanes. The lanes were blocked by AUTHORIZED emergency personnel with lights etc to warn approaching traffic of the blockage. and a bunch of self entitled, wannabe show offs, who are committing numerous ILLEGAL acts, while placing other innocent road users at substantial risk>

you are too much man, you need to stop taking life so literaly... so please explain to me what makes it okay for them to block 3 out of 4 lanes of the highway for 30 minutes on a fender bender when the laws are clearly STEER IT CLEAR

 

[bigslimjim]

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Please, let me jog your memory by bringing up your post from 20 mins ago.

I have no clue to what point you're trying to make. all I said simply is that the drivers of both vehicles should have exchanged info and gone to the collision reporting center and give their account of what happened there, not call 911 and have them dispatch help and block the highway for something ridiculous. the only way I see them calling 911 is if one of the parties involved did not have insurance or possibly drugs or alcohol present. and steer it clear applies to this fyi..it is the whole concept of it. but sure ill let you win this if you're so desperate to try and prove a point of what exactly?

 

[hedo2002]

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Didn't say it was practical nor a responsible thing, merely stated that it is not beyond the realm of Government mandating it in the "name of safety for the motoring public"...lol

Unlikely to happen. They would have to be able to pick out an individual vehicle out of a crowd, without knowing how to specifically identify it (e.g. by VIN, and taking into account that any license plate, if mounted, would be wrong), and get only THAT one to stop. It's easy with a bait vehicle because it's the only one with the receiver. It's easy with OnStar in the case of a stolen vehicle because generally it's the owner who has called in that their vehicle is stolen and they can easily track down the appropriate exact vehicle. Lasers etc require a specific receiver on the vehicle. Any error on the part of the police which results in some other vehicle stopping in a circumstance where that causes a problem (e.g. an innocent person innocently attempting to make a left turn which would be easily completed provided that the engine keeps running ... except that the engine quits mid-turn resulting in the inability to get out of the way of the oncoming transport truck which can't stop in time) ... and there will be lawsuits. Big ones.

There's no such thing as "fail safe". There's also no such thing as "can't be disabled". If such a thing were mandated to be installed, I would get it disabled on principle, even though I have no intent of doing something that would warrant its use ...

 

[bigslimjim]

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wow lmao you guys are writing essays over here. ive had people roll into my cars bumper before while they were texting or w/e ive gotten out saw that theres not even a scratch and just brushed it off I wouldn't be caught dead calling 911 and sending help... lmao stop it im dying laughing over here

 

[PLau]

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I have no clue to what point you're trying to make. all I said simply is that the drivers of both vehicles should have exchanged info and gone to the collision reporting center and give their account of what happened there, not call 911 and have them dispatch help and block the highway for something ridiculous. the only way I see them calling 911 is if one of the parties involved did not have insurance or possibly drugs or alcohol present. and steer it clear applies to this fyi..it is the whole concept of it. but sure ill let you win this if you're so desperate to try and prove a point of what exactly?

Point being is that you're the type of person that guesses, assumes, and makes up stories to fill in the gaps in order to present them as facts therefore all your points are invalid.

Forgot to mention your attempts at trying to insult me based on a previous motorcycle I've owned..

 

[bigslimjim]

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Point being is that you're the type of person that guesses, assumes, and makes up stories to fill in the gaps in order to present them as facts therefore all your points are invalid.

of course the guy must have sustained major injury from being rear ended at neutral rolling speed LMAO.

 

[bigslimjim]

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Point being is that you're the type of person that guesses, assumes, and makes up stories to fill in the gaps in order to present them as facts therefore all your points are invalid.

Forgot to mention your attempts at trying to insult me based on a previous motorcycle I've owned..

I insulted you on the 125 because you're insulting me on my third bike? when you clearly don't know me so I did the same back to you I just came to an assumption. did you ever think of that?

 

[Ethereal]

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[PLau]

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I insulted you on the 125 because you're insulting me on my third bike? when you clearly don't know me so I did the same back to you I just came to an assumption. did you ever think of that?

Haha, fair enough. Difference was it was an educated guess of when you started based on your previous forum posts which was referenced.

Still doesn't change the fact that your story is full of holes and that there is no reason why anyone should decide to willingly stop traffic on a major highway.

Also doesn't change the fact that the point you're trying to get across by comparing willfully blocking a highway vs an accident blocking a highway; saying it's the same thing.

 

[bigslimjim]

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the best part of all of this is that chances are a good number of members from gtam were participating in the ride

 

[bigslimjim]

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anyways I will retract my statement condoning the behavior because honestly I don't want it affecting me in the future and getting pulled over for no reason. I even have my plate mounted on factory fender, no tail tidy or tucked under seat or any shady spot. all I wanted to say was the media blew the whole thing out of proportion when it was just a silly in the moment kinda thing that happened.

 

[Brian P]

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^ BINGO. You finally "got it".

 

[Brian P]

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When is the next ride? I'd like to know, so I can pass the information on to OPP.

If the cops haven't figured out how this was organized by now, they never will. If they're serious about this, they ought to already know who was communicating to whom prior to this last one. Even if they can't pin anything on them right now, they ought to know who they need to be watching. If they're serious about this, they'll already be making arrangements to infiltrate.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

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If the cops haven't figured out how this was organized by now, they never will. If they're serious about this, they ought to already know who was communicating to whom prior to this last one. Even if they can't pin anything on them right now, they ought to know who they need to be watching. If they're serious about this, they'll already be making arrangements to infiltrate.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. If I had their access it wouldn't take me more than 15 minutes to have a list of maybe 100 names. With regular internet access I could probably scare up a dozen or so on my own, if I cared enough to bother.

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