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Police Look To Identify Group Of Stunt Driving Motorcyclists

... and the question was, WHY ARE WE OK WITH THAT? Please do keep telling me things I already know :rolleyes: lol

I replied to that earlier in the thread, but I guess you missed it...or it was too long for you to bother to read it.

So I'll keep this reply shorter. Not everyone is "OK with it" (although most don't care), but it's necessary. Are you suggesting that it the police shouldn't have the power to do a safety and compliance inspection on any vehicle (be it a car, truck, commercial vehicle or motorcycle) at will? Should anyone who doesn't like it just tell them to get stuffed and drive away? Do you comprehend the potential mayhem that this would cause on our roads when, effectively, safety standards are tossed completely out the window?
 
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Originally Posted by Neil_V
Realistically, I don't believe they should be able to impede your travels without probable cause; ie your rust bucket needs obvious work.. that's reasonable. To pull me over on a brand new SS, because it's an SS, to check for vehicle "safety" .. C'mon.
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Originally Posted by yodude

believe what you like, the reality is that anyone can be pulled over at any time, reasonable or not
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Originally Posted by Neil_V

Oh there is no questioning their ability to do so; the question is, why are you okay with it?
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Originally Posted by Neil_V

You said "any time, reasonable or not." My reply was focused on that statement. Quoting me suggesting a time when it may be reasonable only shows that I'm not against reasonable action when obvious concerns are readily visible.

one response (prob the most basic) of many is the question of
papers/docs pls, running plates prior might come into that chit chat, as well as vehicle issues
under what circumstances can they ask for paperwork/docs? what is reasonable?

agreed on is
the reality is that anyone can be pulled over at any time

or at least
there is no questioning their ability to do so
 
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Back to the original topic. I just saw a video taken by a guy on a Grom. There were visible plates everywhere.

And I have a question. Why oh lord why are so many of the riders pegging red line with the clutch pulled in?

Is this deemed cool?

Who pays for the rebuild?

Guy on the stretched swing arm bike that falls down needs to learn to ride. He stretched it because it had too much wheelie power. Then he falls down because it has too much spin power.
Maybe a Grom would be the better choice.
 

Lol at doubling your post count. :) To answer your first question, most here would say riders who participate in such activities often are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I see patterns such as.... http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...the-shoulder&p=2451071&viewfull=1#post2451071
And this harley rider shows such activities extends to all ends of the spectrum... (lol) (was posted here on GTAM too)
[video=youtube;cY38-BFSsvM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY38-BFSsvM[/video]
Other questions answer themselves; especially in combination with the above info.
 
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Why oh lord why are so many of the riders pegging red line with the clutch pulled in?

Because revbombs are kool, yo. And it makes people look at the rider, and since the universe revolves around some riders (simply see the link) it's self gratifying.
 
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Lol at doubling your post count. :) To answer your first question, most here would say riders who participate in such activities often are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I see patterns such as.... http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...the-shoulder&p=2451071&viewfull=1#post2451071
And this harley rider shows such activities extends to all ends of the spectrum... (lol)
[video=youtube;cY38-BFSsvM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY38-BFSsvM[/video]
Other questions answer themselves; especially in combination with the above info.

OMG. I never saw that. Karma baby. Karma
 
I replied to that earlier in the thread, but I guess you missed it...or it was too long for you to bother to read it.

So I'll keep this reply shorter. Not everyone is "OK with it" (although most don't care), but it's necessary. Are you suggesting that it the police shouldn't have the power to do a safety and compliance inspection on any vehicle (be it a car, truck, commercial vehicle or motorcycle) at will? Should anyone who doesn't like it just tell them to get stuffed and drive away? Do you comprehend the potential mayhem that this would cause on our roads when, effectively, safety standards are tossed completely out the window?

Yes. And the suggestion that mayhem would ensue is asinine. By your own admission, non-commercial vehicles are rarely checked, and I don't see an epidemic of unsafe vehicles out there... as usual, you go off on grand inference to try and validate your point. It's old hat.
 
Only paints motorcyclists with one brush. And it isn't a good colour.

Saw a bunch doing wheelies on the gardiner last night. All I wanted to do was to get home for an early day. And can't go more than 60 because they took all the lanes to do their ****ing wheelies. One guy almost wiped out. Had he did, woulda made my day...

of course they didn't have any plates on their bike ....
 
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Only paints motorcyclists with one brush. And it isn't a good colour.

Saw a bunch doing wheelies on the gardiner last night. All I wanted to do was to get home for an early day. And can't go more than 60 because they took all the lanes to do their ****ing wheelies. One guy almost wiped out. Had he did, woulda made my day...

of course they didn't have any plates on their bike ....

No, it doesn't. So much drama in this thread over some wheelies. I'll give you a hint, if you're downtown Toronto don't expect to leave the city in a hurry...ever. If it's not stunters it's contruction or accidents.

I wouldn't be able to join one of these stunt rides but I think it's hilarious. One huge middle finger to the cops and the stupid "stunt driving" law. The cops tow people for doing 151 on the 407 when traffic flows at 140 and can't do **** about these guys actually doing stunts for miles. Makes the cops look pretty useless. Keeping our roads safe going for the low hanging fruit.
 
One guy almost wiped out. Had he did, woulda made my day.

And if he did and a cager ran over him someone's insurance is on the hook to pay for a potential lifetime of feeding him/her through a straw in a nursing home. A few million dollars there.

And the medical system is obligated to help put him/her back together of course in the immediate aftermath. We all get to pay for that on his/her behalf, of course.

And insurance companies then see bikes as even higher risk and jack our rates again.

We all win in the end huh?
 
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BUT your forgetting the VERY real upside to this... The stunters insurance rates won't increase, because he NEVER had insurance, nor can the MTO deny him a plate as he NEVER had one...lmao

And if he did and a cager ran over him someone's insurance is on the hook to pay for potential lifetime of feeding him/her through a straw in a nursing home. A few million dollars there.

And the medical system is obligated to help put him/her back together of course in the immediate aftermath. We all get to pay for that on his/her behalf, of course.

And insurance companies then see bikes as even higher risk and jack our rates again.

We all win in the end huh?
 
Yes. And the suggestion that mayhem would ensue is asinine. By your own admission, non-commercial vehicles are rarely checked, and I don't see an epidemic of unsafe vehicles out there... as usual, you go off on grand inference to try and validate your point. It's old hat.
I agree 100% with this, there is not an "epidemic of unsafe vehicles" on our roads. Usually the ONLY time a personal vehicle is checked is doing those "safety blitzes" at the service centers on the 400 during a long weekend when they are looking for unsafe loads, and catch a few personal "wrecks" on the road.

Commercial vehicle inspections are carried out either by MTO enforcement officers or specially trained police officers. (YRP has a few specialty vans for commercial vehicle enforcement, I sometimes see them set up under the 407 on Yonge street). leave safety inspections to the professionals, not "any" officer.

But even those safety blitzes generally have MTO inspectors as well as specially trained OPP officers,not your average patrol officer. I don't think unless he was a licenced mechanic before becoming an officer, a "general patrol officer" should be conducting safety audits on personal vehicles, (motorcycles, cars, SUV's or vans).

Now as i said I pulled ONE plate during my patrol days, but that was an OBVIOUS safety hazard, it was a night time stop the vehicle had ONE head light, and ONE tail light working, NO brake lights, NO exhaust, holes in the floor boards, duct tape on one fender in an attempt to hold where the metal had rusted away. The vehicle was towed to a tow yard. The owner had the option of having it towed to a garage for the repairs to be done. As he said, to me WHY??? the repairs will cost more than the car is worth. He never claimed the vehicle from the tow yard, they let him collect his property and it was sold off for scrap. Owner KNEW it was a POS, and said he never should have had it on the road. But those were the "old days" when people took responsibility for their actions and "manned up" when they screwed up and didn't try to blame others for their crap..lmao
 
No, it doesn't. So much drama in this thread over some wheelies. I'll give you a hint, if you're downtown Toronto don't expect to leave the city in a hurry...ever. If it's not stunters it's contruction or accidents.

I wouldn't be able to join one of these stunt rides but I think it's hilarious. One huge middle finger to the cops and the stupid "stunt driving" law. The cops tow people for doing 151 on the 407 when traffic flows at 140 and can't do **** about these guys actually doing stunts for miles. Makes the cops look pretty useless. Keeping our roads safe going for the low hanging fruit.

This was at 1 am. No traffic could get around them... and it was light traffic.

Don't get me wrong. I don't care about them doing wheelies. But when you are interfering with other people...... do it in a lot or on a track. Don't block traffic to pull stunts...
 
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Originally Posted by H4x0rz

One guy almost wiped out. Had he did, woulda made my day.

[video=youtube;mevxenJ6Mtc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mevxenJ6Mtc[/video]
 
[video=youtube;3ishbTwXf1g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ishbTwXf1g[/video]
 
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Originally Posted by yodude
believe what you like, the reality is that anyone can be pulled over at any time, reasonable or not



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Originally Posted by Neil_V

Oh there is no questioning their ability to do so; the question is, why are you okay with it?



last i heard, it was about a doc check, being pulled over & the highlighted bigly question
why are you okay with it?

many reasons were also given, including mayhem lol

haven't seen much on your alternatives to your question?
 
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