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Ignoring the fact that the bike was stolen for the moment, this is the sort of injury that can happen to any one of us, at any time. This is the sort of story that should highlight why we should get proper training, why we should practice, and why we should wear proper equipment. A fractured spine leading to paralysis is definitely not the way I want to go.

"Should" is the operative word. I'm the last person to tell you what you need and need not do. We all make our own decisions, and we all live by the consequences.
 
Gallows humour is de rigueur for dealing with tragedies at a distance lest we all go cookoo over the birth of a deformed child or death from not signalling lane change. Mark Twain.
 
hedo2002 said:
The fact the bike was stolen was not included in the orginal news report posted here. So no it wasn't clear whn I posted.
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Not sure what you are talking about. I clicked on the link in the first post and the post doesn't appear to be edited. Its in the first line of the article as i quoted it. But whatever
 
Some cold *** mofos 'round here. Anyone who thinks death or paralysis is an appropriate penalty for stealing might want to get some help.
 
hedo2002 said:
The fact the bike was stolen was not included in the orginal news report posted here. So no it wasn't clear whn I posted. Regardless, it is NOT clear he stole the bike. Ohterwise they would have charged him with theft over $5000 or under $5000, (depending on the value of the bike). The fact that they have charged him only with possession of stolen property indicates they can't prove he stole the bike. as I said he may not have known it was stolen.
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If he didn't know it was stolen how could he have plated it/insured it? Unless he was going a test ride, which is clear he wasn't, he would have to know it was stolen. And if he isn't charged with stealing the vehicle he would be charged with no plate/insurance.
 
Not known to be a liberal lefty but paralysis seems really harsh for theft of a vehicle. Maybe its because I have 4 kids at right around this age and the thought of one of them living the rest of their lives as a vegetable for a mistake in judgment just does not sit right with me. I know he has no one to blame but himself, but the outcome still kind of sucks.
 
redridernl said:
Some cold *** mofos 'round here. Anyone who thinks death or paralysis is an appropriate penalty for stealing might want to get some help.
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These are the same guys who will be shocked at ISIS and their methods of dealing with the West, thieves, or anyone who doesn't share their views. Keyboard warriors unite!

As for this guy....I'd never wish that type of injury on anyone. Your life is basically ****ed....done.
 
Benny! said:
If he didn't know it was stolen how could he have plated it/insured it? Unless he was going a test ride, which is clear he wasn't, he would have to know it was stolen. And if he isn't charged with stealing the vehicle he would be charged with no plate/insurance.
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How is it "clear he wasn't" taking the bike for a test ride. If someone steals a bike and offers it for sale do you think they are going to say "oh btw those aren't my plates and the bike has no insurance because it is stolen??? If someone he knew stole the bike, they may have told hm it was their bike and he could take it for a rip, (again highly doubtful they would have gone into the whole plate and insurance). I have seen this exact scenario more than a few times when I was a copper.

Everyone here is assuming he stole the bike, or he knew it was stolen, which is very possible. Given the charge, it appears the police can't prove either which is why the sole charge is possession of stolen property. Under the law a claim of not knowing the item was stolen is not a viable defence. He "could" be charged with 2 counts of possession stolen property as the plates, (if they belonged to the bike) would also be considered stolen property. Generally you don't charge for no insurance, because that one would simply get plead out with the other charges.

If the police could prove he stole or knew the bike was stolen, then they would have laid the theft charge. They didn't.
 
redridernl said:
Some cold *** mofos 'round here. Anyone who thinks death or paralysis is an appropriate penalty for stealing might want to get some help.
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I agree but by the same token wouldn't it be great for society at large if willful negative behaviour carried a real fear of dire consequences? Right now, as it stands, ruining somebodys' life costs nothing. That's not right either.
 
inreb said:
I agree but by the same token wouldn't it be great for society at large if willful negative behaviour carried a real fear of dire consequences? Right now, as it stands, ruining somebodys' life costs nothing. That's not right either.
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Unfortunately I doubt many here will share the same view, if a rider decides to run from police, (willful negative behaviour), and crashes the masses here will not likely be saying "good on him" too bad he hadn't died. Instead they will look for a way to blame the officer. Or remove the police from the scenario, some rider is pulling wheelies and general hooligan moves, (again willful negative behaviour), and they crash I doubt the first response from many here wouldn't be glad he is paralyszed, or too bad he didn't die"
 
Sad really. It was stupid to steal the bike, and he deserves to be punished. But I wouldn't wish paralysis on anyone but a violent murderer. We all did stupid things when we were young. I think this thief's punishment was too harsh.
 
Roadghost said:
Sad really. It was stupid to steal the bike, and he deserves to be punished. But I wouldn't wish paralysis on anyone but a violent murderer. We all did stupid things when we were young. I think this thief's punishment was too harsh.
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Whenever I go to a major bike show I see a couple of wheelchair warriors and wonder if it was bike related.

Yes, I did stupid things when I was young and continue to do so but with less enthusiasm. This cat has used 8.9 of his lives.
 
Roadghost said:
Sad really. It was stupid to steal the bike, and he deserves to be punished. But I wouldn't wish paralysis on anyone but a violent murderer. We all did stupid things when we were young. I think this thief's punishment was too harsh.
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Lets not confuse the results of an accident with punishment. He made a choice and paid a price. It's the same choice we all make, and the same price we all face. He gambled and lost, which is tragic, but it was by no means a punishment.
 
We have all made bad decisions. Don't pretend you haven't, cuz you have.
This guy (if he stole the bike and rode carelessly) did too. But being happy that a TWENTY year old kid is paralyzed for the rest of his life? F*** off with your **** Morales and stop spreading hate.
If this guy stole my bike, I would be hella mad, as I am sure every one here would be. But wishing paralysis?
It like when people get mad and start spewing garbage like "I hope you get cancer" ... then everyone loses their **** because they know someone they love affected by it.

I can only assume you guys have never had a loved one paralyzed or your hands would tremble trying to type this hate out.
 
Yeah, pretty much (Alamode). His own actions were reckless and the results were unfortunate. There's no deity or magical force involved here. Paralysis will be prison enough--I know people with partial paralysis and their life is 100x more difficult than mine, "differently-abled" be damned.
 
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Sad really.


Side note, any vehicle I've ever ridden or driven, I've known the legal owner and it's properly plated and insured. Don't know how folks get caught and claim they weren't aware.

Anyways, sounds like the young fella didn't have any experience and went out with reckless abandon to himself and others.
 
redridernl said:
Some cold *** mofos 'round here. Anyone who thinks death or paralysis is an appropriate penalty for stealing might want to get some help.
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+1, Not cold,just a bunch of losers who spend their miserable lives on the internet laughing at other peoples misfortunes and don't even realize everytime they touch the keyboard they make ***** out of themselves
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