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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRrider View Post
    As one person can bleed the brakes on a bike it isnt needed. If you want to get something fancy look into speed bleeders.

    There no way I can reach my left front caliper and front brake lever at the same time without being a contortionist so on a bike with a full fairing bleeding brakes is a two person job.

    I've been using speed bleeders for about 15 years and they make it a very simple job for the 3 calipers + clutch I have to maintain. One thing not mentioned in posts is that you have to keep the master topped up with fluid as you bleed. Adding fluid with the speed bleeders is very easy, you just stop pumping the lever or pedal, top up and then continue.

    I think the one scenario where a vacuum device would shine is where you've disassembled the system to replace hoses, pistons, seals etc... and the whole system is full of air. Pulling fluid through an empty system is probably quicker then pushing it via pumping the lever, although both will work.
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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by ReSTored View Post
    There no way I can reach my left front caliper and front brake lever at the same time without being a contortionist so on a bike with a full fairing bleeding brakes is a two person job.
    ...
    If you push the fresh fluid in from the bottom you don't even need to touch the brake lever,
    the valve is already open, you just have to catch the spillage out of the brake master reservoir which you should have emptied first anyway.


    ... actually step one it to push your brake pads all the way apart and hold them there with a piece of wood while you are doing the flush, that way your callipers are virtually empty of fluid or air to start with. If you do it right you won't be putting air into the system, only fluid, zero bleeding required.

    ABS proponents pay no attention to me, you're on your own, you get what you paid for.
    Last edited by Trials; 12-07-2018 at 11:35 AM.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by Trials View Post
    If you push the fresh fluid in from the bottom you don't even need to touch the brake lever,
    the valve is already open, you just have to catch the spillage out of the brake master reservoir which you should have emptied first anyway.


    ... actually step one it to push your brake pads all the way apart and hold them there with a piece of wood while you are doing the flush, that way your callipers are virtually empty of fluid or air to start with. If you do it right you won't be putting air into the system, only fluid, zero bleeding required.

    ABS proponents pay no attention to me, you're on your own, you get what you paid for.
    I don't like pushing the dirty caliper fluid back up into the master. I haven't done it, but it just seems like a bad idea.

    Personally I bought a pressure bleeder as it makes fluid changes on a car a fast and easy one man job. It is not necessary and I still do a few pumps if possible as manual pumping puts a lot more pressure in the system than the pressure bleeder. On a motorbike the pressure bleeder wastes some fluid as you need a bunch in the tank, but I toss the rest of the bottle anyway so it doesn't cost me anything.
    Last edited by GreyGhost; 12-07-2018 at 01:20 PM.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGhost View Post
    I don't like pushing the dirty caliper fluid back up into the master. I haven't done it, but it just seems like a bad idea...
    Puts it out of there pretty fast, you can pretty much always see the colour change,
    & discard fluid from the master reservoir until it starts flowing clear,
    vacuum the reservoir empty, put some fresh fluid in, then finish topping it up in the normal way once the new pads are installed.

    ?:I caliper fluid 'dirty' you're replacing it because of water content
    and being very careful to not introduce dirt or air in the service process. <- that's the only real skill part, the rest is just mess.

    ... note the stuff is toxic nasty, I save up the old stuff along with used anti-freeze for toxic nasty collection day.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    I do gravity bleeding, could not be any more simple to do with same results, actually had to throw a caliper on my Sierra last night in the lane way with a snow squall happening, bled for about 5 minutes, tightened nipple and truck was ready for morning drive to work with a nice firm pedal.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by ReSTored View Post
    There no way I can reach my left front caliper and front brake lever at the same time without being a contortionist so on a bike with a full fairing bleeding brakes is a two person job.

    I've been using speed bleeders for about 15 years and they make it a very simple job for the 3 calipers + clutch I have to maintain. One thing not mentioned in posts is that you have to keep the master topped up with fluid as you bleed. Adding fluid with the speed bleeders is very easy, you just stop pumping the lever or pedal, top up and then continue.

    I think the one scenario where a vacuum device would shine is where you've disassembled the system to replace hoses, pistons, seals etc... and the whole system is full of air. Pulling fluid through an empty system is probably quicker then pushing it via pumping the lever, although both will work.
    your sig says st 1100 so if that's the full fairing bike? I do it on my FJR1300 a few times a year with the speed bleeders.
    A tip to some ..save time and use a turkey baster to suck out dirty fluid out of the master and replace with fresh fluid this will speed things up before you start bleeding.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRrider View Post
    ... use a turkey baster to suck out dirty fluid out of the master ...
    Don't do it! My mom gave me heck when I did that.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by smergy View Post
    I bought the MightyVac one online. I'd only give it a 6/10 in terms of function, although it is reasonably durable.
    meh...mine is ok, not great...got it at CT on sale...i agree on function 6/10 as well...


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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Any of these at about 2 bucks each and half the price of a cheap turkey baster <- which barely produces any suction at all and is useless for filling brakes through the bleed screw.



    I give these 9 out of 10 because while they do a fantastic job of pushing or pulling fluid, they don't last an entire lifetime.

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by matthew View Post
    https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/vacuum-pump-and-brake-bleeder-kit/A-p8050832e

    Has anyone used the brake bleeder that I posted above?

    I have to replace my brake fluid and the kit seems like it will be a big help.
    Thanks.
    I had the exact same one about ten years ago from Princess Auto. It was good enough to bleed the brakes on my 2001 VFR .It had the linked braking system which I thought worked pretty good despite what others say.I think there were 9 bleeder screws on that system. I did three or four other bikes with it and then all of a sudden it didn't work so good.I got my moneys worth out of it I guess . I used a mighty vac once and I think it worked a little better.
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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by matt365 View Post
    I had the same one from PA. Worked once, and never sealed right again. Total junk.

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    Pick up a farm syringe from TSC, (3 pack for two bucks), and some 1/4" tubing.


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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by Trials View Post
    ABS proponents pay no attention to me, you're on your own, you get what you paid for.


    So I need to bleed my linked ABS system twice in order to get old fluid out of the pump... I look at as 2x the fun.

    Plus... Activating the ABS in test mode... the pulsing lever... the pulsing pedal.... Kinda feels kinky...

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    Re: Princess Auto brake bleeder kit

    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    So I need to bleed my linked ABS system twice in order to get old fluid out of the pump... I look at as 2x the fun.

    Plus... Activating the ABS in test mode... the pulsing lever... the pulsing pedal.... Kinda feels kinky...
    What did that other fella say 9 bleed screws! Imagine doing that the last minute before a race.

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