I tend to ride the triumph 1050 more, its a cooler bike. I'm also shallow like that LOL
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is it worht it getting a 1000cc SS for the street?
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I tend to ride the triumph 1050 more, its a cooler bike. I'm also shallow like that LOL
Trials
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Ya I read about the nanny features :I never turn it on, never felt like I needed it. Crankshaft is also counter-rotating on my F3 to reduce wheelie, still wheelies, just makes for higher speed wheelies. The adrenaline junky won't want to use the nanny features any more then I do, heck, he's even worried about a tenth of a second in his 0-100k trap speed.
Pretty sure I haven't heard a single racer/journalist say the bike is better with cornering ABS turned off.
TC & Wheelie control are sometimes linked which runs the fun. If TC is really invasive I could see almost everyone turning it off. On the few bikes I've been on (street) it's been pretty good, when it does cut in its quick to give the power back. Unlike my Optima which cuts it then let's me idle in the middle of an intersection.
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I wouldn't call them nanny features. In a 2 wheel vehicle where you get to ridiculous lean angles and are trying to exit the corner at max acceleration possible they are aids that help you go faster, I know my TC on the race bike saved me a few times and provided the ability to reduce the laptime, we are not talking about self parking aids, we are talking about tech that helps performance, I see these as comparing a carb to fuel injection, fuel injection is an aid that helps performance .
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Trials
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What can I say, I'm old school, I drive an F350 with a six speed standard transmission because I hate automatics, I pay extra money to have the auto door lock features turned off, the mere thought of self driving cars makes me ill and I don't even turn on a radio when I drive, I'm also the only one who can get my daughters car up the ice covered driveway because I'm the only one who took the time to figure out how to turn that stupid traction control thing off. I love having complete control over my controls :| took me a long time and countless crashes to get this far, throttle control ends here for this old guy, that's part of the pleasure in riding for me.
... rev limiter is a very cool nanny feature :I like that one!
... rev limiter is a very cool nanny feature :I like that one!
Lol we do very different riding you and I , next time you hang with szoke ask him if he turns his TC off when he is racing superbikes
I drive a 2 door 6 speed standard jeep. Doesn't get any more old school and less techy than that .
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Not for a cruiser V-twin ... and it'll do it without shaking your fillings loose.
Blackshadow1
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Try a new Harley ride is as smooth as a still lake
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Yes! I'm on my 6th right now. As they say, no replacement for displacement.
PLau
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Why does it always seem like they're riding out an earthquake when I see them? Arms-a-jiggling.
Fun thread. I rode my 800 to work this morning and decided at lunch to go home and get the 1100 for the afternoon.
Night and day. The 800 is no slouch but the visceral nature of the 1100 is just mind bending. And you don't have to get into HTA172 territory to appreciate the magnitude of potential energy beneath you. It's almost spiritual.
Night and day. The 800 is no slouch but the visceral nature of the 1100 is just mind bending. And you don't have to get into HTA172 territory to appreciate the magnitude of potential energy beneath you. It's almost spiritual.
My man!
I sometimes look at performance vehicles and realize I would be totally P'd off if I couldn't open the throttle. It would be like going to a bikini beach and not being allowed to open your eyes.
Yea it's nice to know you could if you wanted to but with HTA 172 you can't do squat on the street. If you're happy with having the reserve power and enjoy the above normal handling at legal speeds then it's your wallet.
Airplanes go fast but at altitude there's no adrenaline rush. Legal rushes are possible with boats but they're their own PITA.
Yea it's nice to know you could if you wanted to but with HTA 172 you can't do squat on the street. If you're happy with having the reserve power and enjoy the above normal handling at legal speeds then it's your wallet.
Airplanes go fast but at altitude there's no adrenaline rush. Legal rushes are possible with boats but they're their own PITA.
To the OP:
The worth is subjective, depends what you get out of it. I currently ride one of the fastest street bikes (acceleration) and still plan to upgrade to a 1000cc (non SS). As has been mentioned here before, typically they get toys/tech that aren't offered at lower capacity. I also find the bigger frames to be extremely comfortable to sit on.
The worth is subjective, depends what you get out of it. I currently ride one of the fastest street bikes (acceleration) and still plan to upgrade to a 1000cc (non SS). As has been mentioned here before, typically they get toys/tech that aren't offered at lower capacity. I also find the bigger frames to be extremely comfortable to sit on.
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For the OP examples, the differences between performance on the track and in the streets are completely different.
Looking at the stats for acceleration and g force capability etc. Even on the track, a litre bike and a 600 will have advantages over each other depending on the type of track. Tight and twisty with short straights? The smaller bike will have an advantage. Longer straights, the litre bike can stretch its legs.
It also depends on ability and the set up of the bike.
On the streets? For many, it about comfort and where you ride. A SS of any kind might not bring the thrills and won’t be able to really determine the performance advantage of either.
Personally, I’m at an age where insurance isn’t a factor. And I’d take a litre bike over a 600 on the street. That’s generally speaking of course.
Maybe a taller windshield and bar risers to help with comfort? The flexibility of a litre bike’s engine would be more attractive to me.
It really depends on how you define ridability out on the streets.
And that is why I don’t have a SS. It’s just too narrow of a purpose to really enjoy out on the road. Best to experience on the track IMO.
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My Fz 1 will beat a reppi 1000rr up to about 130 kph from a standing start
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