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I'm excited.

It's not going to be easy. The PC's are close to eating themselves, Ford's first order of business is to build some strong internal allies among the men and women he needs, then build boxes around the conservative members that have to go. Hopefully this will quell the infighting and let them focus on their campaign message.

Doug -- if you're listening,

1) Play nice with the teachers & public sector unions until the election is over (the Hudak Law)
2) Make your promises clear and simple - I think you got that.
3) Hold rallies - lots of rallies (the Trump Law, chapter 1)
4) Suck up all the oxygen - rock the media each week with a story that carries a few days. (the Trump Law, chapter 2)
5) Don't be a afraid to make enemies. Voters like fighters more than lovers. (the Rob Ford Law)
 
How'd you like to be watching John Tory try to finish a cup of coffee this morning.......... that son of a ***** said he wanted to be mayor , now he just wants to sit on my wallet.
 
How'd you like to be watching John Tory try to finish a cup of coffee this morning.......... that son of a ***** said he wanted to be mayor , now he just wants to sit on my wallet.

Best comment so far.


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My guess is the PCs just saved a lot of Liberal MPPs seats (lots of sighs of relief as their place at the trough may be safe now). With Elliott at the helm it would have been a PC sweep, with Ford I suspect either a PC minority government or small majority.

In the end too many people in the party are stuck in the 50s thinking that bigotry and trickle down economics will somehow actually work--the concept of progressive is nearly completely gone. A women leading the party would have also been way too much of a leap for the "grass roots".

I think he is OK from a skeletons in the closet perspective since he did run for mayor, they would have come out then, but we will see. As a former drug dealer he is well suited to deal with pot sales, so there is that.
 
At least we've heard of him. PC's candidates might as well have been wearing camo.

Is he the one we want or is he just better than Wynne?

Right now so many people are sick of Wynne they'd vote for a zebra mussel.

Ford will have the same problem as his brother, having to waste a lot of time defending the family honour, if it exists.

There have been too many decades of self centred, unrealistic voters electing incompetents posing as leaders for anyone with less than the wisdom of Solomon to succeed in straightening this mess out.
 
My guess is the PCs just saved a lot of Liberal MPPs seats (lots of sighs of relief as their place at the trough may be safe now). With Elliott at the helm it would have been a PC sweep, with Ford I suspect either a PC minority government or small majority.

In the end too many people in the party are stuck in the 50s thinking that bigotry and trickle down economics will somehow actually work--the concept of progressive is nearly completely gone. A women leading the party would have also been way too much of a leap for the "grass roots".

I think he is OK from a skeletons in the closet perspective since he did run for mayor, they would have come out then, but we will see. As a former drug dealer he is well suited to deal with pot sales, so there is that.

federally as well
no doubt was a big factor in JT becoming PM
many in the east just cannot swallow prairie conservatism
 
I'm not sure that we should project our own prejudice, bias, and bigotry onto others. Food for thought.
 
I'm not sure that we should project our own prejudice, bias, and bigotry onto others. Food for thought.
Lol, good catch!
 
Today I had to remind my GF that he's not his brother, and that Rob is deceased. I don't want Mulroney because she has zero political experience, and the we're already suffering somebody that rode into office on their daddy's name. I also don't know anything about the other runner, but the Ford name is tainted and it will hurt Doug in the provincial race.

+1

I think from a policy perspective, Ford was the best man. Christine Eliot would have delivered more of the same liberal-style establishment policy which is exactly what Ontarians are sick of. My concern is that the party porkers will revolt on him because they all want to ride the gravy train. Ford is going to cut deep into spending, just like his brother. We can look forward to more privatization and less big government. Socialists will definitely be outraged.

Agreed

Very happy about Doug Ford winning. Make sure to get out there and vote the **** out.
 
I have to think the Liberal and NDP attack-ad machines are frothing at the mouth right now, eager to get images and messages out there that will put Ford and the PCs in a bad light. Such a target-rich environment...
 
I predict another Liberal majority.

All the PCs need is a reasonable platform and a decent candidate.... and they’ve failed again.
 
I predict another Liberal majority.

All the PCs need is a reasonable platform and a decent candidate.... and they’ve failed again.

In a nutshell. All the opposition needed to do was steer a drama free course to get a win. I’m not sure this is the way to do it. Dynasty politics hasn’t been working too well for the last little while.
 
I predict another Liberal majority.

All the PCs need is a reasonable platform and a decent candidate.... and they’ve failed again.
You sure about that? Wynne hung herself. With all the scandals & crap, I could put a mouse as an opponent & it will still win.
 
Ugh. I caught a snippet on TV yesterday of Ford speaking at some “meet the mere mortals” thing in a restaurant and the way he talked was straight out of the Trump playbook.

I’ll play wait and see with where he goes with his campaign, what he stands for, and how he behaves, but I’ll also be looking very closely a the NDP now as well since Liberal is clearly not an option either.

I suspect we will see a huge jump in the NDP poll numbers in the weeks ahead.
 
Ugh. I caught a snippet on TV yesterday of Ford speaking at some “meet the mere mortals” thing in a restaurant and the way he talked was straight out of the Trump playbook.

I’ll play wait and see with where he goes with his campaign, what he stands for, and how he behaves, but I’ll also be looking very closely a the NDP now as well since Liberal is clearly not an option either.

I suspect we will see a huge jump in the NDP poll numbers in the weeks ahead.
Don't underestimate populism, plain speak is easy to understand and politicians are just discovering it's power. Guys like Ford, Trump and May hove found ways to cut through intellectualized socialist babble -- the stuff politicians feed the electorate. Clear and simple speak helps voters understand who they are and how gov't decisions impact them over time, conservatives are mastering that these days (as are some liberals -- Bernie Sanders is an example of a left leaning populist).

It's unfortunate that so few Canadians understand basic civics, I'm amazed at how few people can actually explain the basics of liberalism and conservatism.
 
It's unfortunate that so few Canadians understand basic civics, I'm amazed at how few people can actually explain the basics of liberalism and conservatism.
I heard a pc member said "oh, ford won. Guess I'd be voting ndp for the provincial elections." I'm like honey, you were never a conservative in the first place.
 
All this comparison of Trump with Doug. But Doug was who he was before Trump was in politics.

Another label by the left.
 

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