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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

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    When you actually look into it, Samsung does have a lot of quality control issues. The cellphones are one thing (and lets not forget that long before the exploding cellphones there were years and years of failed charging ports, etc), but you only need to look as far as their other products to see that they've had to recall hundreds of thousands of other products over the years for issues ranging from fire risks, to washing machines that literally shake themselves to pieces (injuring people)..and then helpfully sending cable repairmen to fix them.

    And when these issues are brought to light they fight consumers (and even governments), provide lacklustre service, and seem to take a lot of effort to weasel out of actually owning up to the issues.

    Accordingly, I too do not buy Samsung products whatsoever.
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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    no surprise a lame group like VW has to snap up second tier battery suppliers like LG and Samsung.


    Tesla and Toyota stick to quality and leaders in the industry, Panasonic.
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    Accordingly, I too do not buy Samsung products whatsoever.
    Washing machines shake, batteries explode ... It's a war zone out there, I know terrible.

    I guess, your car choices will be limited to the cars with Panasonic cells, assuming you want to stick to your Samsung product embargo.

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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    He's not the only one .
    We dropped Samsung monitors for their horrid product support and I have over 40 years in electronics and a decade with cameras, Pannie simply rules for being reliable.
    Even their home phones you can't kill.

    One of the key aspects of my faith in Tesla over time is the partnership with Panasonic.

    Samsung is rife with issues

    one of many articles,,

    Samsung failures- Toxic Internal Culture reflecting in products - LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/.../samsung...lecting-gaurav...
    Oct 15, 2016 - As perceived earlier in my previous article, the mounting problems Samsung is facing from its 5 series product to recent withdrawal of 7 series model, directly costing USD 18 Billion and indirectly much more, is not just because of technical issues but dives down deep into organisational culture and ...
    Samsung, Lotte and the Problems With Chaebols: QuickTake Q&A ...
    https://www.bloomberg.com/.../samsun...haebols-quickt...
    Oct 26, 2016 - While Samsung and Lotte Group are going through very different crises -- Samsung had to abandon a popular smartphone due to batteries that caught fire; ... family faces trial on charges of embezzlement and tax evasion -- both now face questions about corporate leadership, governance and culture.
    I much prefer Japan Inc over Korea Inc.

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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

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    Washing machines shake, batteries explode ... It's a war zone out there, I know terrible.
    Other manufacturers don't have the issues many Samsung products do.

    Samsung has it's feet in so many swimming pools (they make everything from vending machines to toilet seats, and seemingly every other product in between) that they seem to have reached a point where they are putting quantity before quality.

    As a consumer I have the ability to speak with my wallet, which I've chosen to do whenever possible. I am NOT someone who believes in being an apologist for any brand/manufacturer (because fanboy) if there's reason to suspect there's better alternatives. IE, I like Apple products, but I will readily throw them under the bus (and yes, consider alternatives) when justified.

    I have owned Samsung products before and had bad experiences, and I do not like their corporate culture nor consumer satisfaction track record, hence my personal views on the matter.
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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    I don't think its fair to paint Samsung with the same brush across all product lines.

    Few would fault the quality of their phones and tablets arguably the best hardware in the business. Even Apple relies heavily on samsung for supply components. I also believe their washers and dryers are another strength.


    I agree, Samsung have their hands in many businesses and can't be "the best at everything", but a fool would right them off as being garbage across all their product lines.



    As for Panasonic, they are killing it in the battery business. No surprise, super high quality and been doing it for many years. I don't follow cordless tool tech anymore, but last time I checked, Even their cordless tools are rated tops, because they are the only company that design the battery AND the tool, which means they work well together for optimal performance.

    http://shop.panasonic.com/home-and-o...lation-systems

    Panasonic's exclusive Li-ion battery technology produces less internal heat buildup that can kill battery packs. The battery packs also feature Panasonic's Solid Solution technology, a proprietary process for dissolving and hardening cobalt and nickel and other key battery components. This unique chemistry dramatically improves battery pack safety, reliability and power output. A special heat-resistant ceramic coating layer separates cells and protects them from heat buildup. Together, the chemistry, battery design and manufacturing process add up to powerful batteries that promise to deliver long running lives.
    Battery packs that are smart, too
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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    Few would fault the quality of their phones and tablets arguably the best hardware in the business.
    sure

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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

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    sure
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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    Ontario EV drivers have no worries on this count as we are just about fossil free...
    Interesting improvements even in the US tho...

    What's The Effective MPG Of An Electric Car? It Depends On Where You Live
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    The efficiency of your electric vehicle depends on where exactly your electricity is coming from — which varies depending on where you live.

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    Agreed, it's getting better and better, it will continue to be the case, even though DT would like us to believe that clean cola is just around the corner .... LOL ....

    This map and trend in general should be liked by any ordinary Joe, not just people who drive EV's ....

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    Somehow we knew that this must come at some point, right? ... Yawn.

    https://insideevs.com/honda-patents-...ll-motorcycle/

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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    Another manufacturer is going electric.Still not good enough for me tho.Battery needs a LOT more capacity.
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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

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    Another manufacturer is going electric.Still not good enough for me tho.Battery needs a LOT more capacity.
    Electric may be faster/cheaper to operate and more reliable but damn I hate the sound.

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    Re: How do you feel about the decline of petrol vehicles?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGhost View Post
    Electric may be faster/cheaper to operate and more reliable but damn I hate the sound.
    I thought the exact same thing,until i rode one.Didn't miss the noise at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingboy View Post
    I thought the exact same thing,until i rode one.Didn't miss the noise at all.
    And that's how it goes with 90% of people who try one. Whether car or motorcycle. And I always counted myself as a guy who appreciates nice exhaust sounds. At the end of the day, to most of us, it's just something our mind easily give up even though we don't think so initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingboy View Post
    Another manufacturer is going electric.Still not good enough for me tho.Battery needs a LOT more capacity.
    It's hard to comment on it with very little specs released, mainly the motor and battery specs. At this point it's just prototype which will get some viewing in summer during some trial races. I bet it will be expensive though ....

    "
    To keep weight to a minimum, the TY-E features a carbon-fibre monocoque chassis. The batteries sit inside the frame itself. It’s incredibly strong and light, helping the whole machine weigh under 70kg."

    The battery will for sure be small. But you'd expect that for a closed circuit purpose machine.

    On the other hand, how much capacity do you really need for a trial bike? Since you are stating you need a "lot more"? What I would prefer, instead of dragging a large battery all the time I would seldom need, a spare battery pack charged and ready to swap in a minute or two. The issue for now remains the price of extra packs .... pricey due to small production volumes.

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