Got my bill today so registering a vehicle a few hours before driving on the 407 doesn't work.
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407 Charge Unrecognizable Plate - $1500+
- Thread starter Bweixz
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A couple of months ago I had an incorrect charge, sent them an email disputing the charge, and the charge was reversed on the next billing cycle. The key info I sent them was that the bike plate they charged was a day I wasn't riding, and it was for my 50cc scooter.
As in my case it seems the 407 is willing to admit to the occasional error but the OP's friend made the error of thinking there wouldn't be a charge for 30 trips. Maybe he thought it was like the NY State Thruway which is about 1/10th the rate IIRC.
Yes, about 15 years ago I used to make trips on the NY Thruway from Niagara to the Ohio state line, IIRC it was $2.10 US which is about 50 miles. You can't go anywhere on the 407 for that little, considering each time you enter you get dinged $0.90 for a "roadside assistance charge"..lol
I don't think providing an excuse means anything to the 407ETR. You just tell them a trip was erroneously charged and they'll pull up the picture and a human eye will quickly determine if the computer read the plate wrong or not. They won't care if you have a out-of-town hotel bill for that night or if you weren't riding that day because anyone could have been riding your vehicle. They just automatically send the bill to whoever the vehicle is registered to.
And if the plate does match what's shown on the picture, then they're going to keep the charge on your bill. Which either means you have a bigger problem (someone counterfeited your plate), or you'll be spending a lot more time and energy appealing the charge than a simple e-mail or phone call.
zts1986
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Are Americans charged for use of the 407 ETR? Myself and three other guys were on it back in July from Burlington to Brampton (~40 km) and none of us have received a bill in the mail. Years ago driving up to Parry Sound towing a snowmobile trailer my dad would get billed.
3 of the 4 of us have very visible plates (nothing aftermarket).
3 of the 4 of us have very visible plates (nothing aftermarket).
kiwi
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see https://www.407etr.com/en/tolls/tolls/out-of-province.html
but, I would't go chasing them up, then you're bound to get a bill in the mail. Maybe they couldn't be bothered billing you or it "got lost in the system"
Although the signs say out of province plates will be billed, I know of someone from another province that visits Ontario for months every summer and uses the 407. Plates are fully visible and he has never received a bill. My guess is it isn't worth their time unless you really rack up the miles.
arogal
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You don't need a transponder with a motorcycle to use the 407. They don't charge motorcycles the camera fee....you just pay for the trip like you would as if you were to have a transponder.
I have been flipping my plate for quite some time on the 407 and haven't got nailed yet, just flip it back when I'm off....but when I do get nailed, I won't b**ch about it because I should have been paying in the first place.
I pay for it when I use my primary vehicle, so I don't feel bad using it for free (for now haha) on my bike because they are ripping me off anyways so it's a wash in my books. Was at my buddies parents winter home just outside of Tampa and talk about a toll free road. Ride for 10-15 miles and throw in 50 cents in the plastic tub....keep riding. We get killed here, its unbelievable!!
Be ready to have the OPP stop you and have a chat, been covered on another thread.
Why not just reach back once you've passed the camera and ride with it in a normal position.
I mean.. Uh, don't do illegal things.
arogal
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I flip if before the cameras, then back down.....flip it again before i get off. Takes 2 seconds. I know it's not a great thing to do....but they are taking $150 give or take monthly with my other vehicle, so I don't feel guilty the smallest bit doing this
arogal
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This is exactly what I do. Haters gunna hate, but whatever
They’ll love you long time (like the OP’s “friend” here) when you inevitable get busted.
That’s before the charges for the plate concealment device if it’s the OPP that do the 407 a solid on catching you.
That’s before the charges for the plate concealment device if it’s the OPP that do the 407 a solid on catching you.
Or if they get annoyed enough to live transmit unreadable plates to a cop just up the road.
I fixed that for you.
I don't like the whole 407 situation any more than many here, but that doesn't mean I intentionally go out of my way to steal from them...I just speak with my wallet and simply don't USE it.
I flip if before the cameras, then back down.....flip it again before i get off. Takes 2 seconds. I know it's not a great thing to do....but they are taking $150 give or take monthly with my other vehicle, so I don't feel guilty the smallest bit doing this
No, what they do is hand the on/off location and time info to the police. One they establish a pattern they'll have cruisers laying in wait. I'm not judging you, just be ready for the inevitable.
Amen.
arogal
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Praise Jesus
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