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Should men enter into marriage? Is it in their interest?

Should men get married today?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 10.5%

  • No

    Votes: 23 60.5%

  • not sure

    Votes: 4 10.5%

  • maybe if the laws were applied equally

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Total voters
    38
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I came across this on the tube.
The business part of men losing big from the start seems to realistic and a major point to consider as this guy points out that
men lose the house, at least half their money, and access to their children.

The other point this guys raised I wondered and posted about also.
What is the man does not want a kid or the agreement was no kid (at that time) but she gets pregnant breaking that agreement therefore he is on the hook for something he did not agree to?

It is interesting in this video how the female host tries to shift the blame back to the guy for getting pregnant.

(inreb in first)

how do I embed Youtube video clip??

[video]https://youtu.be/ndVff07a34E[/video]

and this from female doctor's point of view supporting not getting married

[video]https://youtu.be/k6r3B9RU8IA[/video]

and this one...interesting about the jail time
[video]https://youtu.be/BoXQf2f2Yxo[/video]
 
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No and no. Accurate 9.5 times out of 10.
 
I know some guys who shouldn't... Or shouldn't have... Lol.
 
The answer is Maury!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_(TV_series)

In all fairness, it is not rocket science:

-If the guy does not ever ever ever want kids--they have surgery for that.
-If he wants kids but the timing sucks, well timing sucks all the time, man up.
-Why is it her sole responsibility to not get pregnant, if it was that important to him he could have taken his own precautions, if he did not, man up.
-If he just doesn't want kids with xxxx, well then don't....xxxx.
-If Maury says "you are the father", man up. If he says "you are not the father" move on. If in doubt, go on Maury before signing your life away.

Life is about choices and it is rarely fair.
 
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Men who think like those in the OP -- guys that see marriage in business-like terms and agreements and **** -- should not get married.
 
Blackfin said:
Men who think like those in the OP -- guys that see marriage in business-like terms and agreements and **** -- should not get married.
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When you're in a three way contract with the wife and government, and you know what the consequences are, you have no choice but cold sober analysis. Doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't romcom roll play to feed the little lady's ever expanding ego until you can't face the fraud you've become in the mirror.
 
Guys can go into marriage with all the best intentions...i.e. long term commitment, kids, future, etc.....but get screwed after a while cause the woman made a decision. He goes in to share everything he worked for before marriage with a life long partner, not to share it with a woman that decided to split. She should not take half of everything owned pre marriage just because of being married.
 
Women don't need marriage as much as men don't need it.


'Used to be that women needed marriage in order to be provided for. Once women became persons under the law, given the right to vote and allowed out of the kitchen to work for pay their need to be looked after has dwindled.
 
With current family laws in place in Canada, absolutely not! It's a ticking time bomb.

In family courts, men are treated like second class citizens these days from divorce to demestic violence and...

Not only women get much more of the shared assets + alimony, but 86.8% of EXCLUSIVE CUSTODY in Canada is granted to women according to StatCan.

In the case of divorce, women have everything to gain and man have everything to loose. Most important of all, their children.
 
What if the guy wants kids and she agrees, only to change her mind 5 years down the road? One can have prenups, contracts etc but legislating morality or fairness is futile.

I agree that the present family laws are hurting women but also men. I'm not sure of the latest definition of common law but you don't need a ceremony to be hitched.

If you want to think about potential problems consider the over 40 set going into a second marriage, blended family.
 
nobbie48 said:
What if the guy wants kids and she agrees, only to change her mind 5 years down the road? One can have prenups, contracts etc but legislating morality or fairness is futile.

I agree that the present family laws are hurting women but also men. I'm not sure of the latest definition of common law but you don't need a ceremony to be hitched.

If you want to think about potential problems consider the over 40 set going into a second marriage, blended family.
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Can you include cheating in prenub? As in if one party cheats and is proven, the other party gets to keep shared assests and children?

Because in any other business, a breach of contract is punished but in marriage, which is the most personal and valuable contract for people, cheating seems to go unpunished. Despite the fact that it will cause most damage both financially and emotionally for the party that was cheated on.

From my understanding cheating is immoral not illegal so i doubt it would play a role in the final judgemnt and the most it will do is to grant you divorce without the trial separation. and only that.

I hope im wrong
 
definitely no, and not just because you're male

all a license from the government does is make people lazy in the maintenance of a relationship

a long term commitment between 2 people I suppose can be rewarding, didn't work well for me,
all the marriage BS did was give the lawyers a few more bucks when getting untangled from each other

as for kids, if you're gonna be in a sexual relationship with a woman, understand that you have no
control over that, none, so best be prepared for the possibility of a 20 year commitment with a kid,
not necessarily her
 
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backmarkerducati said:
The answer is Maury!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_(TV_series)

In all fairness, it is not rocket science:

-If the guy does not ever ever ever want kids--they have surgery for that.
-If he wants kids but the timing sucks, well timing sucks all the time, man up.
-Why is it her sole responsibility to not get pregnant, if it was that important to him he could have taken his own precautions, if he did not, man up.
-If he just doesn't want kids with xxxx, well then don't....xxxx.
-If Maury says "you are the father", man up. If he says "you are not the father" move on. If in doubt, go on Maury before signing your life away.

Life is about choices and it is rarely fair.
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see bold item above...funny how that phrase is selectively used to bully men into things.

Let me ask you this, she goes and takes the USED condom and a turkey baster and gets herself pregnant...Did you agree to that?
Isn't that a form of rape???

Why have surgery? You are not locked into this person for life. Maybe after 1 year of knowing and living with her you find out she was a felon, or current drug user, or current porn star or heavy gambler with no credit and in the hole for a lot of $$$
See how that does not work....btw same for women, they should not have to get surgery unless they want to.

She entered into a verbal contract when she went on the pill...coming off or missing the pill voids the contract on her end.



*yes there is a real case of that by a prominent woman doing that to her husband (can't recall now, inreb might know)
 
Blackfin said:
Men who think like those in the OP -- guys that see marriage in business-like terms and agreements and **** -- should not get married.
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You are usually on point but man...your reply is like a new rider destined for a hell of a tank slapper and highside...
 
If you want a family then yes you should get married. In practical terms, it makes no difference if you're married or common-law when children are involved.

If you don't want kids? Then you'd be a complete idiot to get married. It makes zero sense. With that said, common-law could easily end in you having to make spousal support payments if things go south.

On topic of "her" getting the house and the kids and half your money... well, that depends on how you arrange it. If a married couple with kids gets divorced, and the man is making more money, then of course he should support his ex spouse and his children. I don't see an issue with this. Its a tough pill to swallow, but that's life. You'd be splitting that money regardless, except now your pay check needs to cover 2 homes, etc. That's life.
 
If a guy wanted to remain unmarried, wanted his freedom, back in the day, it was usually understood that he was a player or commitmentphobe. Today it literally means he doesn't want to be in chains, a utility slave to an unappreciative woman who cannot be made happy. Lots of anecdotal evidence around but for me one of the saddest was the young partner I had at the last construction job. 3hr commute, 9hr shift supporting a wife who wants to be a Kardashian. Can't win that one.
 
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