The only two people I know that drive BMWs both have issues with tires scalloping (think that's what it's called) and need to replace them very often. Tire shops are telling them both it's super common with all modern BMWs.
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Nice Sedans that can Tow?
- Thread starter Hardwrkr13
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Really wanted one but proper 4x4 isn't to be used on mixed surfaces (like slippery but with patches of asphalt) or above 100 kph so I changed my search back to AWD.
I asked insurance a few years ago and they told me there was no law and if anything happened I'd still have liability coverage but they wouldn't cover any damages to my vehicle as it would be considered negligence and my own fault I wrecked the car.
DSG or manual?
I'd probably blame that on the short wheelbase but I'm not a big tower.
I hope those same shops are correctly weighting the vehicle as per the service instruction before doing an alignment... but I wouldn't bet a single tool in my box on it.
Not likely but, BMW doesn't recommend tire rotations and often experience poor tread life. Customer complaints are typically met with, the vehicle is "The Ultimate Driving Machine."
So it's to be expected.
A good friend of mine tells me service costs aren't that bad when considering oil change intervals can run 15k or so. But when something out of warranty goes bad, it's gonna cost ya.
I wouldn't look at them as a towing sedan but, I did rather enjoy an X3 while in Vancouver last summer for a week. Brand new rental. No care or concern in the world.
Would I spend my own money on one? Not until my child support payments end.
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Nice cars, but I'd never buy one. Many models also depreciate rapidly, some of the more expensive ones are notorious for depreciating $20,000 in their first year and 5-8K/year every year after that.
I guess if you're wealthy and that sort of thing doesn't matter it's probably not a big deal to have a car that basically sucks a $100 bill out of your wallet every kilometer you drive, but for the rest of us...well, no thanks.
Nice cars, but I'd never buy one. Many models also depreciate rapidly, some of the more expensive ones are notorious for depreciating $20,000 in their first year and 5-8K/year every year after that.
I guess if you're wealthy and that sort of thing doesn't matter it's probably not a big deal to have a car that basically sucks a $100 bill out of your wallet every kilometer you drive, but for the rest of us...well, no thanks.
Only on models with staggered tire sizes, which would be the higher M sport trim levels for most series.
Show me a top of the range luxury car from any corner of the world that doesn't. A Lexus may hold marginally more value, but certainly nothing to write home about. You want resale, buy a CRV.
The $100 bill bit.. total hyperbole, particularly if you're servicing with a good indie
... oh, and if you buy one new all maintenance is covered for the first 4 years or 80,000. The comments you're echoing come from ten cent millionaires buying out of warranty high end cars that stretch their budget to the max. I get a new one every week lol. .. but on thread topic, they don't meet OP's criteria so this is all moot.
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I believe runflats exacerbate this issue as well. Generally the reports are when you switch to non-rft they ride much nicer and get much better tire life.
Good to know. I thought one guy switched those out already but I might be wrong.
[FONT="]I have a 2008 VW Passat 2.0T, manual transmission. Euro tow spec is max 750kg unbreaked trailer and 1500kg with breaks.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Have a 5x8 aluminum trailer fitted to carry two cruisers (approx 750kg when loaded) and a custom hitch installed at Can-Am RV in London ON (they are very knowledgeable towing specialists).[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Car handled very well when towing the bikes. Was climbing Veil Pass (11000ft) in 6th gear at 120km/hr with the two bikes in tow with no hiccups. Even tried a test drive with a 3000lbs travel trailer but didn't drive far enough to have an opinion.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Average mileage on that trip was 15l/100km at 120km/h, that could be lowered to 12l/100km if speed is kept at 100km/h.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]The car is very roomy on the inside (passenger an luggage) and fairly economical as a daily driver. The average mileage on the 400 series is 7.5-8.5 l / 100km at speeds around 120km/h. The big draw back: requires premium fuel, but that is something I can live with.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]In terms of reliability, had no major issues, I am currently at 283K with original engine and tranny (including the clutch). Should the car fail due to past towing history, I would be OK, as I got enough out of this car already. This model (B6 Passat) was sold until 2010. In my opinion. it is one of the best towing vehicles out there in its class, as confirmed by various European car magazines.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Have a 5x8 aluminum trailer fitted to carry two cruisers (approx 750kg when loaded) and a custom hitch installed at Can-Am RV in London ON (they are very knowledgeable towing specialists).[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Car handled very well when towing the bikes. Was climbing Veil Pass (11000ft) in 6th gear at 120km/hr with the two bikes in tow with no hiccups. Even tried a test drive with a 3000lbs travel trailer but didn't drive far enough to have an opinion.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Average mileage on that trip was 15l/100km at 120km/h, that could be lowered to 12l/100km if speed is kept at 100km/h.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]The car is very roomy on the inside (passenger an luggage) and fairly economical as a daily driver. The average mileage on the 400 series is 7.5-8.5 l / 100km at speeds around 120km/h. The big draw back: requires premium fuel, but that is something I can live with.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]In terms of reliability, had no major issues, I am currently at 283K with original engine and tranny (including the clutch). Should the car fail due to past towing history, I would be OK, as I got enough out of this car already. This model (B6 Passat) was sold until 2010. In my opinion. it is one of the best towing vehicles out there in its class, as confirmed by various European car magazines.[/FONT]
Weight matters a lot less (within reason, to a certain point) than wind resistance does. 1500# of motorcycles on a flat deck trailer that weighs 1000# is going to pull a LOT easier than the exact equivalent weight in an enclosed trailer with a 8 foot height. The enclosed is going to be like pulling an anchor in comparison once you get above 70KPH.
It's the drag that can be problematic moreso than the weight and this can be problematic for automatic transmissions - a lot of gear hunting or (more commonly) inability to keep the transmission in lockup (where it's 1:1) means it makes a ton of heat. Unless the vehicle was equipped with a tow package from the factory (which typically includes a larger or secondary transmission cooler) the factory cooling system often can't keep up with this heat generation....and heat kills transmissions.
It's the drag that can be problematic moreso than the weight and this can be problematic for automatic transmissions - a lot of gear hunting or (more commonly) inability to keep the transmission in lockup (where it's 1:1) means it makes a ton of heat. Unless the vehicle was equipped with a tow package from the factory (which typically includes a larger or secondary transmission cooler) the factory cooling system often can't keep up with this heat generation....and heat kills transmissions.
How about a Volvo S80, fast , roomy, loaded up you can buy an off lease volvo exc car for m$29-30K . Tows 3000lbs. Friend in Oakville has bought two in the last year, his Rwd S80, loaded at @$29k and wifes nicer S80 AWD @ $31k. Warranty is pretty good and volvo has a decent track record.
I drove his for a week and other than turning off bells and whistles like follow to close alarm and lane wandering, its pretty nice.
I'd own another BMW in an instant, my 328 used 1 set of tires in 5yrs and other than filters and oil nothing else. And the resale was OK.
I drove his for a week and other than turning off bells and whistles like follow to close alarm and lane wandering, its pretty nice.
I'd own another BMW in an instant, my 328 used 1 set of tires in 5yrs and other than filters and oil nothing else. And the resale was OK.
I was surprised to learn that one can have Volvo V60, T6, AWD as CPO for reasonable money. I got 2015 with 70K on it, lots of warranty left (factory + CPO) 30K+tax.
It's not sedan, but it's not the boxy large station wagon they used to sell back in a day. Volvo seems to be very aggressive on the CPO market in Canada, compared to the disillusioned German brands who seem to think they sell used gold bricks in shape of cars ...
It's not sedan, but it's not the boxy large station wagon they used to sell back in a day. Volvo seems to be very aggressive on the CPO market in Canada, compared to the disillusioned German brands who seem to think they sell used gold bricks in shape of cars ...
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