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油井緋色;2425311 said:
You could also make your bike into an explosive if tampered with but somebody told me that'd probably land you in jail.
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There is a knee jerk desire to booby trap things but consider that a sensitive trip could kill or maim a 5 year old just touching the bike. If the trip didn't go off immediately other innocents including first responders could face the same fate.

A tempting thought best left as a thought.
 
Long story short...if someone wants to steal something, they will find a way. All you can try to do is protect yourself with insurance, and make your bike as annoying to steal as possible (or at least a lot more annoying than any other bikes around you, due to thieves normally taking the low hanging fruit).

That said...supersports and condos do not mix. Also seems every 20 something wants one...and most of the time they live in an apartment or condo, as a house with a private garage is out of their price range (or they 'must' live in the city).

Also never read the full thread, but in case it hasn't been mentioned, thieves aren't entirely dumb and know insurance will pay out for a new bike. This means they will likely come back in a few months time to see what new and shiny bike replaced it, and take that one too. Happened to a friend of mine when their R6 was stolen in the fall, and then their new Ducati (replacement) in the spring.
 
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nobbie48 said:
There is a knee jerk desire to booby trap things but consider that a sensitive trip could kill or maim a 5 year old just touching the bike. If the trip didn't go off immediately other innocents including first responders could face the same fate.

A tempting thought best left as a thought.
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I remember someone saying that if anyone was injured or killed (yes, even trying to steal something of yours), you would be fined and sent to jail. The loophole might be if there was clear signage of such a device then they would be forewarned, but I doubt that would hold up in court. lol (although stitching "This motorcycle is protected by claymore explosive device" on the seat would be hilarious)
 
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ddzc said:
Very true, about everything you just said. I checked the site, quite pricey and they don't have the length I need which is around 4.1M. Do you recommend any good heavy duty chains in the city? I was going to head over to home depot and get the thickest chain in stock...I highly doubt someone would go through the efforts with an angle grinder. I'll be adding other layers of security on top of that.
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The problem with utility chains is that they are generally not hardened, making them easy to cut. Chains that are hardened right through can be cracked.
The Almax chains are case hardened, allowing them to resist cutting and cracking.

Give them a call/email. I'm sure they can sell you the length you need. Can't see why they won't.
 
Dont get another ss... the enjoyment you get while riding it will be far outweighed by all the stress from constantly worrying about when it'll get stolen.

Get something old like a Katana or a Bandit. Still fast bikes but less attractive to thieves. And a lot cheaper to insure too.

Personally I lived in a condo for 3 years and bought a brand new gixxer 600 and it never got stolen, but I was always worrying about it. Then I moved out of Toronto and got my own house with garage. It's really nice not having to worry.
 
I used to work as an automotive specialist locksmith. Many of my calls were vehicles that were parked underground but the owner had lost the keys. The easiest way to get in the vehicle would 99% of the time set off the alarm. Out of all those times, guess how many people stopped to see what the hell I was doing... 0. And for 3/4 the time I worked for the company, my work van was a beat up old unmarked Caravan. Point of the story: get insurance and an ugly bike, or just stop caring. A condo is unfortunately no place to park a pretty bike.
 
for condo...
Buy a beat up Van, insure and plate it for a month, then cancel insurance, that way you have the plates with valid tag, park your motorcycle inside the van....
 
The responses and suggestions in this thread are awesome, especially for noobs and new riders like myself...eye opening for sure, especially after experiencing this bs first hand. I read the entire reddit thread, great info.

I forced the cops to look in to this in depth...I had a detective assigned to the case and he's looking at the footage in the next couple of days. He said it's very unlikely that they'll find the bike or the people involved. He said someone also stole a bike the same day at west mall in Etob (I'm also in Etob). They usually use stolen vans or rentals with fake info. He mentioned a lot of bike and car thefts are going around in the spring/summer mths.

As for next steps, I'll get something a bit older, add some security and cover it up. Hopefully I wont have such bad luck next time around. I'll also look in to local storage facilities where I can lock it up when I'm not around.

Hopefully other learn from this, even if it's a couple minor measures taken to secure and hide your bike, it can very well be enough to deter a low life pos thief.
 
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helloworld said:
for condo...
Buy a beat up Van, insure and plate it for a month, then cancel insurance, that way you have the plates with valid tag, park your motorcycle inside the van....
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Thieves frequently steal vans to steal motorcycles If they found one with a bike inside, then you just did their job for them. Yoink!
 
conundrum said:
I remember someone saying that if anyone was injured or killed (yes, even trying to steal something of yours), you would be fined and sent to jail. The loophole might be if there was clear signage of such a device then they would be forewarned, but I doubt that would hold up in court. lol (although stitching "This motorcycle is protected by claymore explosive device" on the seat would be hilarious)
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IIRC, the act of setting a physical trap is illegal, regardless of reasons or signage as it shows intent to harm. Also, the trap setter or family members are often the first to accidentally trigger the mechanism, since they interact with it frequently. Think about the amount of times you accidentally hit the panic button on your car's key fob, or forget to disarm the alarm. First responders are a concern too, but they often arrive after the fact to assist the turkeys.
 
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Flywheel said:
IIRC, the act of setting a physical trap is illegal, regardless of reasons or signage as it shows intent to harm. Also, the trap setter or family members are often the first to accidentally trigger the mechanism, since they interact with it frequently. Think about the amount of times you accidentally hit the panic button on your car's key fob, or forget to disarm the alarm. First responders are a concern too, but they often arrive after the fact to assist the turkeys.
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If there was a way to electrocute them, I would be all up for it.
 
nobbie48 said:
There is a knee jerk desire to booby trap things but consider that a sensitive trip could kill or maim a 5 year old just touching the bike. If the trip didn't go off immediately other innocents including first responders could face the same fate.

A tempting thought best left as a thought.
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I've thought about it before as well and it was the main reason why I didn't do it. I also have a horrible habit of forgetting things and I would be damn ****** (and in agony) if I forgot to disarm the detonating mechanism one day.

But the idea was pretty interesting to play with because I found out the following:

1. You can make any car battery into a bomb
2. The gas tank is extremely close to the detonator
3. Motor oil will actually blow up (needs to be approx 300 degrees or higher)

I should also probably stop typing before I get flagged as a terrorist lol
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