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This isn't ending well....

Meh, I feel for the driver. Obviously I don't condone his actions at that point you just have to sit there and wait for them to do whatever the hell they are doing.

I just know what it's like to be caught behind one of those stupid funeral processions after having a rough day and just wanting to get home. Not to mention in the video there are plenty of lanes available which would be even more frustrating. PLUS it's one thing when a cop orders you to stop but when some random guy stops you it's like... wtf are you doing, you have no authority.
 
I'm not understanding why they need all 3 lanes of the road, and wouldn't put out the cash to post warnings to others sharing the road beforehand, apparently most guys and gals on here can stay in one lane at 300+ kph.
 
I guess the Jeeper didn't fancy being on the receiving end of attitude, not appreciating the sanctity of the douchiness. I can relate.
 
In one hand, we have a group who are not necessarily breaking the rules, but still being completely inconsiderate and self-serving. In the other we have an individual who is just fed up and wants to get on with his business, a damn these entitled pricks if they are going to just push him around and stop him.

I've seen this before...
 
I have been stuck behind Harley Trains in the past... I feel the frustration but what he did was wrong.
 
I would have done what the Jeep driver did.

Nobody has any extra privilege to use the road than I have. If anyone wants to try and assert their special privilege over me then they'll have to earn it.
 
Being held up by a procession is no excuse for dangerous driving. Sure, it's an inconvenience but blowing your stack and almost causing an accident is no way to deal with it. In Toronto you're just rushing to the next red light, or traffic jam, or construction hold-up, or accident anyway. People need to be a little more patient. There is no way I would have done what that Jeep driver did. He could have hurt someone and put himself in jail.
 
This ride was for US veterans, escorted by the police. In no way does anyone have the right to "push through" the pack. I do believe there are other roads and routes around if you don't want to be patient.


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Pass left, drive right for all involved would have made this a more pleasant experience.

Did the mob of bikers think that the roads were closed or something?
 
Did the mob of bikers think that the roads were closed or something?

Pass left - Move Right does indeed solve many things.

However, given the near immediate police response (from a motorbike no less), and that others in the thread said so, it's likely this 'mob' was moving along under a police escort. So quite possibly the roads were 'pseudo-closed' for them. For example, the police escort may have held traffic at lights to allow the group to continue through on reds and stay together. This is enitrely to blame on the impatient, ignorant, idiotic behaviour of the driver. I can't imagine how the driver did not see the motorcycle cop too. Sigh.

Hell, do those (like fastar1) who have comments about how the motorcyclists have to earn any special privilege - I'd say they have. IE - the freakin' police escort and possibly having to PAY for it too.
 
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Pass left - Move Right does indeed solve many things.

However, given the near immediate police response (from a motorbike no less), and that others in the thread said so, it's likely this 'mob' was moving along under a police escort. So quite possibly the roads were 'pseudo-closed' for them. For example, the police escort may have held traffic at lights to allow the group to continue through on reds and stay together. This is enitrely to blame on the impatient, ignorant, idiotic behaviour of the driver. I can't imagine how the driver did not see the motorcycle cop too. Sigh.

Hell, do those (like fastar1) who have comments about how the motorcyclists have to earn any special privilege - I'd say they have. IE - the freakin' police escort and possibly having to PAY for it too.

'pseudo-closed'? what the heck is 'pseudo-closed'? It isn't enitrely to blame on the impatient, ignorant, idiotic behaviour of the driver. There was plenty of impatient, ignorant, idiotic, behaviour going around. Either it's closed, or it isn't, there is no try. Blocking 3 lanes of a 'pseudo-closed' roadway shouldn't be a viable option for a group.
Blocking one, or maybe two is a possibility, but you'd need a proper escort.

One other problem with this video is that there is no context for how the guy got into the middle of the group in the first place.
 
There's plenty of instances were police doing rolling closures, or leave one live lane of traffic open while the other lanes are being used for whatever (marches, etc..) That's what I meant. The roads don't have to just be open or closed. There can be a little bit of both. It can be gray - like life.. like this video... lol.

I'd bet the procession's route was not entirely closed off to public. How much man power do you think that would have taken to close down every stop sign, intersection (etc..) over how many miles it ran. Not feasible. So the route was likely on a rolling closure as they motored along. The police in the rear (assuming there were cops bringing up the rear) were also not likely permitting vehicles to drive into the procession of motorbikes.

It definitely is a question as to how the truck driver got there. Like I said, assuming he came from the rear, how the heck did he not see the cop and/or get through. Perhaps he turned in from a side street where the cops were not stopping traffic. Who knows how long the procession was.

You also speak as if there was no police escort.. Has it not been established that there was?
 
The guys who made the video say it was escorted. I saw one police bike at the end of the video.

When it started, all of the bikes except for two are in the middle lane.
Those are the two who are corralling the Jeep driver, and eventually force him to a stop.
They didn't look like uniformed officers to me, so I'm not sure what their authority was for forcing him to stop.
You'll notice that he stops and backs up his vehicle before going over the curb.

Chances are he was scared ******** that he was going to be attacked by a gang.

It'll make an interesting case if he decides to pursue a lawsuit.
 
I can't see how it would be a lawsuit. Pretty pointless. It would be a stretch to argue how the driver felt their life was in danger with 2 motorcyclists who make no aggressive moves toward (at least on video). With the rest of the procession motoring along without a care. The guy on the green bike doesn't even look at the driver when stopped beside him, and instead waves on the huge conga-line of motorcyclists.

You actually do have the authority to stop in the middle of a live lane of traffic if you want. Obviously, apply a bit of common sense to the context and situation in which you do it.. but try it! While driving down a street to come to a safe and controlled stop in the middle of lane and vehicles should stop behind you. They are at fault if they hit you, and they too don't have the permission to mount the sidewalk and go around. At worst I bet you may get charged with something minor like Interfere with Traffic, but so long as you had a viable reason to stop you're golden - like Geese O' Crossing OR for the safety of the large police-escorted-motorbike-procession happening in the lane next to you. ;)
 
That's the problem nowadays, people don't seem to be able to see both sides of the situation. Even after the fact.
The start of the video shows a Supersport bike sharing the lane with the Jeep. To my inexperienced eye, he's being forced to the side and slowed to a stop by what appears to be two other members of the public. Not exactly what you'd expect for good public relations, by the ride's sponsors. However, I will repeat, we have no idea how the situation escalated to this point. I can't just automatically assume that one side is right, and the other wrong without seeing all of the facts, in the way that the videographer can.

Sure the motorcyclists want him to stay the ... away, but he also want to get the ... out of their way.

It looks to me from the video that the supersport that was recording was within inches of the Jeep and forcing him into the curb. Hardly non-aggressive. The other motorcyclist stopped his bike in the middle of the road for no apparent reason. Are you suggesting that there were ducks crossing the road? Besides, wasn't that woman thrown in jail for stopping?

Here, depending on who initiated things, there could be vehicle confiscation and 172 charges, for one, the other or all of the direct participants.

Anyways, I still don't see enough evidence one way or the other to really pick a side, even with the video which is obviously biased against the jeep driver. I'm not sure what this group intends to prove by publishing this video, except that they and other vehicles can't get along. It takes away from whatever the event was supposed to be for, and focuses it on the we vs them mentality that exists. Maybe their city will decide to cancel the event, and save everyone some hassle.
 
Are you suggesting that there were ducks crossing the road? Besides, wasn't that woman thrown in jail for stopping?

No. Hehehe. That's why I prefaced that entire sentence using common sense, etc.. Happens all the time around migration season on roads like HWY 7 & Leslie where traffic will stop dead for no apparent reason, until you (a few cars back) realize a family of Geese are crossing 8 lines of live traffic. That situation in inherently different than the circumstances that surrounded that story in Quebec (was it?) - hence why no one has been thrown in jail for forcing you to stop for the safety of geese.

Agreed a video (cut-in at the biker's choice spot) does show only a perspective he may want to convey.. but I maintain applying some logic and rational thinking (to both sides of a story) would likely (in this particular video) bring one to a particular conclusion that lays fault on the driver.

A person who hasn't gone a little COOO-COOO for coco-puffs won't hope the curb and try to run another person off the road. I believe the driver lost restraint and went COOO-COOO for coco-puffs. That's where I believe everyone gets up and arms. Again, he be a little bit justified in doing so he if thought his life was in danger, but take the constellation of facts presented in what you see in the video and a little logic and rational thinking to what likely transpired in the video before it cut in and .. ya.. running in circles here.
 
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Pass left - Move Right does indeed solve many things.

However, given the near immediate police response (from a motorbike no less), and that others in the thread said so, it's likely this 'mob' was moving along under a police escort. So quite possibly the roads were 'pseudo-closed' for them. For example, the police escort may have held traffic at lights to allow the group to continue through on reds and stay together. This is enitrely to blame on the impatient, ignorant, idiotic behaviour of the driver. I can't imagine how the driver did not see the motorcycle cop too. Sigh.

Hell, do those (like fastar1) who have comments about how the motorcyclists have to earn any special privilege - I'd say they have. IE - the freakin' police escort and possibly having to PAY for it too.
I actually agree. We are just basing our views on two different assumptions, because we can't tell from the video alone whether the road was restricted by police, or if the bike cop just pulled over the Jeep for driving on the grass.

If access to the road was limited by the cops then you're right. I just didn't see that conclusively. Even if so, they failed to keep the Jeep guy out of the procession for some reason.
 
Biker is at full stop in otherwise clear right lane. That'll burn your shorts. Then fish out of water Ninja pulls up to your door and pulls a tired old revving cliche. No wonder the guy gets pizzed. So when he jumps the curb and makes a break for it the fat one of those two bikers paces him. Pfff. And two more block the Jeep. You don't block runaway cars with your motorcycle especially if you got helmetless skank on the back. Their power trip only works because other people play along. Coulda mowed 'em down.
 
It would be a stretch to argue how the driver felt their life was in danger with 2 motorcyclists who make no aggressive moves toward

As mentioned, who knows what happened before the video starts, and don't forget (as is evidenced by many of the flags flying off the bikes) that this appears to have took place in the Good-ol gun-totin USA. Perhaps some pirate further back in the procession took issue with him long before the video started and decided to flash his hip-cannon at the guy at which point it's entirely possible the driver *did* feel his life was in danger and he needed to get the heck out of dodge.

Or perhaps he's just an impatient doucebag.

But, as with many videos, often what happened before and after the clip we all see is also very telling, but often excluded.
 
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