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Burlington looks to slow traffic on Snake Road

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The city plans to curb traffic speeds on a rural road popular with motorcyclists after a group of local residents raised concerns last year over noise and safety.

Municipal staff undertook a traffic study along Snake Road, near the Hamilton border, in recent months and presented the findings, with recommendations, at a public meeting last Thursday (Oct. 29).

Acting manager of traffic services Jenny Setterfield said staff first met with residents last year to talk about repairs being done to the Snake Road bridge, but also heard a lot at the time about issues related to traffic.

“We committed to them that we would do a full analysis, top to bottom, of Snake Road and come back to them within a year,” Setterfield said of previous meeting with residents.

“The feeling I took away from them (Thursday) is that we listened to them and we addressed the majority of their concerns and there are a couple of follow-ups.”

The most significant changes on the way include more signage and three sets of rumble strips to deter speeding motorcyclists, which some in the community accuse of being a nuisance.

Over the summer, speed data from three locations along the four-kilometre road, between Thomson Drive and its end point at Beth Jacob Cemetery, south of the QEW, was collected and analyzed.

City staff found through the use of Automatic Traffic Recorders (ATRs) that 85 per cent of motorists along the north end of Snake Road were travelling at 56 km/h. The speed limit is 50 km/h.

The information was passed along to Halton police who plan to step up further enforcement strategies in the area, including the possible placement of a decoy cruiser.

Setterfield said after installing the rumble strips, the city would collect more speed data next summer to measure the effectiveness.

The benefits, she explained to the Post, would hopefully be three-fold.

“The one being the deterrent for motorcycles and the car clubs that come down and do a lot of their testing,” she said. “The second is the awareness coming into the neighbourhood, and before the curves (in the road), and the third is going to be (reducing) speed.”

Ward 1 Councillor Rick Craven also attended last week’s meeting and said the flow of traffic was the No. 1 issue he and fellow councillors hear about from constituents.

Craven said in the case of Snake Road he was “very impressed” with how staff reacted to the community’s concerns.

“The nature of the urban environment is constantly changing and people are often abusing the roads and we need to continue to be vigilant,” Craven said.

“I think what the residents told us tonight was that they were happy with what we presented but they’d be interested in even more traffic calming at the north end of Snake Road, so that’s worth considering.”

Some at the meeting, attended by more than a dozen residents, asked if staff would look at additional measures such as temporary rubber speed humps.

Traffic services staff didn’t rule out taking further action if the rumble strips proved ineffective, but were also careful to note that they’d be hesitant given the possible danger to unsuspecting motorcyclists.

Craven said, at least for now, the new traffic calming measures are “a strong step in the right direction, and I’m pleased with how far we’ve come.

“Snake Road has a long history of abuse, particularly by speeding cars and motorcycles, and it’s important that we address that.”
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http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/6084757-burlington-looks-to-slow-traffic-on-snake-road/
 
was riding through there wednesday...saw the decoy cruiser, it works.
 
Only works the first time or two you see it. It's been there for over a week. Of course once you get lulled into a false sense of security one day they'll swap it for a real one!
 
Do rumble strips really work for motorcycles? I've ridden on the ones on highways and residential streets and never noticed a difference in the feel of the road.
 
If you have even a smidgen of humanity in your soul the forlorn looks offered up by dejected locals as you scrape by dulls the pleasure of performance motoring. Pity. Need race face.
 
SWH said:
Do rumble strips really work for motorcycles? I've ridden on the ones on highways and residential streets and never noticed a difference in the feel of the road.
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Do you ride an adventure bike?
My suspension is set up pretty tight, I can feel everything
 
RockerGuy said:
Do you ride an adventure bike?
My suspension is set up pretty tight, I can feel everything
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You might be right on that, none of my bikes have track suspension. (FZ6, Grom and DRZ400SM)
I guess it might work for some super sports then.
 
Rumble strips or speed bumps? I will ride by tomorrow to check.
 
City staff found through the use of Automatic Traffic Recorders (ATRs) that 85 per cent of motorists along the north end of Snake Road were travelling at 56 km/h. The speed limit is 50 km/h. [/QUOTE]

So where is the speed problem? Thats pretty damn close to the speed limit
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JamJam said:
City staff found through the use of Automatic Traffic Recorders (ATRs) that 85 per cent of motorists along the north end of Snake Road were travelling at 56 km/h. The speed limit is 50 km/h. [/QUOTE]

So where is the speed problem? Thats pretty damn close to the speed limit
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The 15% that go there expressly for skillz check?
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JamJam said:
So where is the speed problem? Thats pretty damn close to the speed limit
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Well within the margin of error of most bike speedo's anyway.

The city is proposing rumble strips only for now, they will be in the straightaway section. Not that big of a deal as long as they are well signed IMO.

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JamJam said:
City staff found through the use of Automatic Traffic Recorders (ATRs) that 85 per cent of motorists along the north end of Snake Road were travelling at 56 km/h. The speed limit is 50 km/h. [/QUOTE]

So where is the speed problem? Thats pretty damn close to the speed limit
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The problem is the noise. I would be ****** too and I am all for noise enforcement.
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What residents? Aren't there only like 10 house along that road? Same old thing going on here, changing things for the few. Maybe the speed limit should be 30 kph? So may roads have ultra slow speed limits nowadays.


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OH FFS! This isn't about speed. It's about noise. I can't blame the few people who live along that road. I doubt they give half a damn if speeding bikers destroy themselves, as long as they do it quietly.
 
Venom01 said:
OH FFS! This isn't about speed. It's about noise. I can't blame the few people who live along that road. I doubt they give half a damn if speeding bikers destroy themselves, as long as they do it quietly.
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Exactly.I'd be furious if wankers were doing their stuff down my street too.
 
Wingboy said:
Exactly.I'd be furious if wankers were doing their stuff down my street too.
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"The city plans to curb traffic speeds on a rural road popular with motorcyclists"

There's noise everywhere, like the people I live next to, the guy with the car & bad exhaust, the planes that fly over. I could understand if the noise was 7 days a week 24hrs a day. The world is full of noise! You could take your bike thru in first gear doing the speed limit and make noise. They should do exhaust Db check on all vehicles going down the road. That may help!?
 
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