I recently used DOT slicks(came with bike) on track... crashed the one time i didnt use warmers.. went in too hot and then lost focus and fixated on the wall.. ended up ditching the bike.
I am looking for dedicated track use tires but would like to know my options... want to avoid using warmers if possible.
What you have described is not a tire issue, it's rider error and throwing money at tires will not solve it.
Target fixation is the number on reason for novice crashes both on and off the track (panicking and abruptly grabbing front brake on corner entry follows closely behind).
The sooner you learn to tune this out the safer and cheaper your track riding will be.
Learning to analyze your incidents is key to becoming a better, safer rider quickly. Without this your development will stagnate and get horribly expensive.
....But since this is really a tire tread lets talk tires, lol :
The Pirelli Superbike Pro was a great tire in its day, I used to put these on our endurance bikes that Pro racers would be putting down constant 1:14s at TMP for 3 hours straight without any trouble.
That being said they are old technology and as many said before, they are much more sensitive to heat cycling than some of the more modern offerings. We would discard these after one 3 hour endurance race.
Bang for the buck I would recommend the Bridgestone BT003RS or the RS10 (if you are running a 190 or 200 rear as they don't come in a 180 yet). These are fantastic track oriented tires that offer a lot for very little money.
Another viable option that is better than the Q3 in the hyper sort street tire category would be the New S20 EVO. They have consistently tested better than any other street tire on track, but as with all street tires they have their limitations. All street tires will get out of their heat range rather quickly on a track, even with a moderately quick novice at the helm. The S20 EVO seems to be the least susceptible to it. Once a tire gets out of the heat range it was designed for it will start to get "greasy".
My current favorite, money no object trackday tire that will obliterate anything else in the "no tire warmer" category is the new Michelin Super Sport Evo.
They also come in a variety of profiles that give you another dimension to play with your chassis geometry beyond normal suspension settings. They provide very good resistance to heat cycling and fantastic grip for a tire that doesn't require warmers.
The only issue is that they cost almost $100 more than a set of BT003rs/rs10.
