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Sunnis And Female Genital Mutilation: A Disgusting Secret...

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The latest Sunni problem: Female Genital Mutilation... :(



http://pamelageller.com/2010/12/imam-female-genital-mutilation-recommended-by-islam.html/

"The Imam of Hajji Osman Alaf Mosque in Iraqi Kurdistan’s second largest city, Sulaimaniyah, has told his followers that anyone who believes female circumcision is not a recommendation from the prophet Mohammed is “ignorant.” -"

“When men and women have intercourse, their sexual organs should be circumcised and clean,” he quoted Prophet Mohammed as saying.
He added that practicing a Sunnah act is “good,” but that not practicing it is “not sinful.” But in some cultures, including among some Kurds, uncircumcised women are regarded as unclean and are not allowed to cook.|
- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2010/12/ima...commended-by-islam.html/#sthash.dEPXLvx2.dpuf

http://www.islam-watch.org/autho"rs/143-roddy/890-one-sunni-school-of-sharia-law-supports-female-genital-mutilation.html

"While FGM certainly is a custom that does predate at least Christianity and Islam, and possibly Judaism, it was made a part of one Sunni schools of Sharia law – namely the Shafi'i School. FGM is, thus, very much a part of Islam, because the Shafi'i is the dominant school of Sharia in a number of mostly Muslim countries, and is the second most popular Sunni school overall after the Hanafi."

"This 2007 salon.com article points out that over 95% of Egyptian women are subjected to FGM.The Shafi'i school's support for FGM is also why an imam in Kurdistan, where the Shafi'i school is dominant, said in a 2011 sermon that mutilating women's genitals was obligatory."

"more than 60% of Kurdish women are subjected to FGM."

"Yes, Female genitals mutilation …..many Muslims would approve off it …secretly and publicly

It is a way to insure the honor of Muslim men "

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2013/06/10/islam-and-female-genital-mutilation/

Tahara (female circumcision) is quite widespread in Islam, and has the backing of many even so-called moderate Muslim leaders and scholars. Consider for example Dr Muhammad al-Mussayar from the Al-Azhar University in Cairo:
“All jurisprudents since the advent of Islam and for fourteen centuries or more, are in consensus that female circumcision is permitted in Islam. But they were divided as to its status in the sharia. Some said that female circumcision is required by the sharia, just like male circumcision. Some said this is a mainstream practice, while others said that it is a noble act.”

he Reliance of the Traveller, a respected manual of Shafi’i jurisprudence, states ‘Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris’.”

“Female circumcision is commonly practiced among Indonesian Muslims, where the Shafi’i’ school predominates, such as Egypt, southern Arabia, Bahrain, Kurdistan, Somalia, Brunei, and Malaysia, as well as Indonesia.”

Ahmad ibn Hanbal (from whom the Hanbali school of Islamic jurisprudence takes its name) quotes Muhammed as saying ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women’.”

"with young girls dying as a result. We even have this tragic story emerging in today’s media: “A thirteen-year-old child died Thursday evening while being circumcised at a private clinic in a village of the Nile Delta governorate of Daqahliya. "

"So while FGM does indeed predate Islam, it has become a big part of Islam in various places. And with girls still being tortured and killed by those who practice it, it is time to say enough is enough."

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/female-genital-mutilation-is-part-of-the-sunna-of-the-prophet/

"Circumcision is part of the Sunna of the Prophet. We used to bring a daya, and she would circumcise the children, but when the role of the daya was abolished, we stopped. Now we take our children to the doctor, and he circumcises them."

"The Prophet said that the men go and wage Jihad for a year. He said that girls should be circumcised so they can bear it for a whole year until the men return. […]"

"The Prophet said that circumcision is obligatory for men, and is noble for women. This means that for the sake of her honor, a woman can be circumcised. "

When a girl is taken — usually by her mother — to a free circumcision event held each spring in Bandung, Indonesia, she is handed over to a small group of women who, swiftly and yet with apparent affection, cut off a small piece of her genitals. Sponsored by the Assalaam Foundation, an Islamic educational and social-services organization, circumcisions take place in a prayer center or an emptied-out elementary-school classroom where desks are pushed together and covered with sheets and a pillow to serve as makeshift beds. The procedure takes several minutes. There is little blood involved. Afterward, the girl’s genital area is swabbed with the antiseptic Betadine. She is then helped back into her underwear and returned to a waiting area, where she’s given a small, celebratory gift — some fruit or a donated piece of clothing — and offered a cup of milk for refreshment. She has now joined a quiet majority in Indonesia, where, according to a 2003 study by the Population Council, an international research group, 96 percent of families surveyed reported that their daughters had undergone some form of circumcision by the time they reached 14.

The Assalaam Foundation runs several schools and a mosque in Bandung, Indonesia’s third-largest city and the capital of West Java. The photographer Stephanie Sinclair was taken to the circumcision event by a reproductive-health observer from Jakarta and allowed to spend several hours there. Over the course of that Sunday morning, more than 200 girls were circumcised, many of them appearing to be under the age of 5.


According to Lukman Hakim, the foundation’s chairman of social services, there are three “benefits” to circumcising girls.

“One, it will stabilize her libido,” he said through an interpreter. “Two, it will make a woman look more beautiful in the eyes of her husband. And three, it will balance her psychology.”

http://sheikyermami.com/2012/04/fem...-is-part-of-the-sunna-of-the-prophet-part-ii/

Despite what the HHS claims, FGM is in fact associated with Islam, is supported in contemporary interpretation of Islamic scripture and has been endorsed by Islamic religious leaders. Shariah law manuals require and support the practice.


One of the most widely read Shariah law texts is Reliance of the Traveler: A ClassicManual of Islamic Sacred Law.
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This book was translated into English in 1991. It has been endorsed by the President of the International Institute of Islamic Thought and the President of the Fiqh Council of North America, as well as Al Azhar Research Academy in Cairo, Egypt, the Sunni Islamic world’s foremost educational institution.
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On page 59 of Reliance one finds this passage:
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e4.3 Â Â Circumcision is obligatory (O: for both men and women. For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce (Ar. Bazr) of the clitoris (n: not the clitoris itself, as some mistakenly assert). (A: Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband.)

As an explanation, there are several schools of Shariah jurisprudence, known as “fiqhs.” As the passage above explains, for some female “circumcision” is “obligatory.” For another it is considered “sunna.” For those who are not familiar with the term, sunna in the context of Shariah means a custom or norm established by practice, example, decision or tradition of the prophet Mohammed. As a source of Islamic law, the sunna of the prophet Mohammed is second in importance only to the Quran itself.

Only click on this link if you want to be deeply disturbed. This is what they are doing to these poor girls... :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=y0NuCMKaRpY



http://europenews.dk/en/node/62326

"because of the ferocious uprising it sparked among Islamic clerics, who fervently pointed to Islamic teachings to make sure this crime against women remained firm in place.
And it is clear, of course, why FGM is so important and crucial to Islam; crippling women’s sexuality solidifies the misogynist structures of Islamic gender apartheid. Keeping FGM legitimized and institutionalized helps keep women subjugated and caged. By amputating the clitoris, Islam’s mutilators succeed in maiming the woman’s sexual desire and pleasure, which, in the morbid Islamic mindset, reduces the chances that she will ever toy with the horrifying notions (for Islam) of autonomy, equality and self-determination.
But how can we possibly help Muslim girls if our society forbids us to confront this Islamic crime and the theology in which it is rooted? And that’s where we tragically stand: while millions of young Muslim girls suffer the mutilating barbarity of female genital mutilation in the Islamic world every year"

I fully expect to be called an Islamophobe again but this barbaric practice is happening with alarming regularity in Sunni areas but...

http://www.exmuslim.org/genital-mutilation-of-women-an-islamic-practice.html

"Through contact with the West, Muslims are being confronted with elements from their religion, the Islamic faith, that are clearly contrary to the UDHR. Instead of admitting that Muhammad did indeed spread doctrine that in many aspects is unacceptable in the modern world, Muslims deny this obvious truth and reality. Of course, this denial does nothing to make these elements disappear.

A situation is thus created whereby these elements that prove less savoury to a Western public are being softened and have their prickly edges rounded off by the studied means of rhetorical subterfuge and sophistry, at least in such cases where the critics of such practices are not simply denounced as racists, Islamophobes, dispensers of hatred versus Islam, and the like. "

Sunni Muslims can pretend that FGM does not happen in their faith but it does; with alarming regularity...

 
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Male genital mutilation happens every day in this country. Both sick (and I'm guilty unfortunately).
 
What is the purpose of your post OP? trying to get a rise out of some members here if you're bored?

i think we all get it....that whole area is ****ed up and there's not much any of us can do about it. Until the people THAT ARE THERE LIVING EVERYDAY Stand up to their leaders and take a stand back nothing will change.

The people living there are responsible for themselves....if they can't figure out they're living in the Stone Age and don't want to get out...there is ZERO that the West can do. Sorry. That's how I see it.
 
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What is the purpose of your post OP? trying to get a rise out of some members here if you're bored?

i think we all get it....that whole area is ****ed up and there's not much any of us can do about it. Until the people THAT ARE THERE LIVING EVERYDAY Stand up to their leaders and take a stand back nothing will change.

The people living there are responsible for themselves....if they can't figure out they're living in the Stone Age and don't want to get out...there is ZERO that the West can do. Sorry. That's how I see it.

It affect us too... Some are taking their daughters back to the Middle East to have their daughters mutilated.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/craig-and-marc-kielburger/female-genital-mutilation_b_2813119.html

"According to Davis some immigrants even take their pubescent daughters back to their original countries to have FGM performed, often against the will of the girls who have become North Americanized and no longer see the practice as normal."


 
Male genital mutilation happens every day in this country. Both sick (and I'm guilty unfortunately).

Apples and oranges. FGM removes the clitoris. The equivalent for you would be if your parents had the doctor remove the head, not just the foreskin.
 
This is also a brewing, underground problem in the U.S.

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2013/06/10/islam-and-female-genital-mutilation/

"Things are also troublesome in the US. One article states, “Last month the US legal assistance website, TrustLaw, carried a report that girls living in America increasingly are at risk of female genital mutilation (FGM) both at home and abroad – and was promptly slammed by one commenter for failing to identify the chief culprits, namely Muslims…. The [Sanctuary for Families] report said up to 200,000 girls and women in the United States are at risk of FGM and that the number is growing.”"
 
I wonder what would happen if the tables were turned. If a country acted against our values by downgrading women why not make a stand. The west could ban male students at our universities.

"OK Mister Superior, your cancer surgeon will be with you as soon as SHE can."

"You think that isn't fair? I'll check with a lawyer to see when SHE can intervene."

"I'm sorry that makes you want to go back home. Your plane leaves as soon as your pilot finishes powdering HER nose."

"You can't make alternate arrangements because of a virus in your laptop? See tech support down the hall. HER office is on the left."
 
The people living there are responsible for themselves....if they can't figure out they're living in the Stone Age and don't want to get out...there is ZERO that the West can do. Sorry. That's how I see it.

Kinda agree to be honest. Why must the west always stick their noses in other people's business? We have our own code of ethics and they have theirs, why must we enforce our own code on everyone else? If the people over there were fleeting the country and becoming refugees in Canada cause they were being oppressed in their own country then that would be a different story but those people seem "satisfied" with their own, yes, incredibly barbaric seeming to us, customs.
 
Kinda agree to be honest. Why must the west always stick their noses in other people's business? We have our own code of ethics and they have theirs, why must we enforce our own code on everyone else? If the people over there were fleeting the country and becoming refugees in Canada cause they were being oppressed in their own country then that would be a different story but those people seem "satisfied" with their own, yes, incredibly barbaric seeming to us, customs.

A century ago Canadian women didn't have the right to vote and were considered chattels of the husband as were the children. That was changed by protests and education with a lot of work still to be done.

Women's right in the middle east is IMO a side issue. It's all about oil.

I wonder what they think of us. We abstain from having children so we can have bigger cars.

And of course fake boobs, nose jobs, liposuction, butt implants, tattoos, cheek implants. We are so open and humane (If you look perfect and wear the right clothes)
 
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Kinda agree to be honest. Why must the west always stick their noses in other people's business? We have our own code of ethics and they have theirs, why must we enforce our own code on everyone else? If the people over there were fleeting the country and becoming refugees in Canada cause they were being oppressed in their own country then that would be a different story but those people seem "satisfied" with their own, yes, incredibly barbaric seeming to us, customs.

I somewhat agree. IF they want to re-create 632 over there then do we really need to be involved at all? However, if the Sunni are creating Genocide against the Shia should we turn a blind eye?

Also, don't forget that this is happening here, the U.S., the U.K. and some other countries. There are underground doctors and clinics doing this crap within our own borders and also taking their daughters to "visit their home country". However, the visit turns into a nightmare when her clitoris is removed. Should we just shrug our shoulders and pretend that this is not happening within our own borders?
 

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