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Bike wont start, stuck need some help

Gotta admit.. Pretty nervous about breaking a window in that plastic housing


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Just thought of something .

The pump is working fine right now.. The only thing i poked around and physically moved was when i proved the back of the external connector...

WHAT IF it is this piece all along

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There is noway i can determine that right now because the pump is working


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
This picture (#1) has red and black on it. Why not connect a DMM that has a continuity test with a beeper, if you have, and wiggle it. see if the continuity noise gets disrupted if the wires are moved. If it does, then instead of drilling through, since it's an external connection that seems to be the problem, i would just resolder the end piece of the black wire to where it's connected to. This is assuming that the wire that's in the epoxy is solid. Usually the reason it's epoxied is because they don't want ppl messing around with it as it can disrupt a sensor (if there is one). There's usually something in there that shouldnt be messed around that's why theres epoxy.


Pic #2. I would again, continuity test. If you have small alligator clips, it would make it easier to diagnose. If not, then you either buy a pair or grab another pair of hands. @ twos with the DMM and the harness and the other wiggle. It's also possible to do with just 2 hands but it gets tricky depending on the type of probe your dmm comes with.


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Picture 2

there is nothing to clip on to. I can barely poke a needle through the back...

I can try and push a copper wire from the other side and tap it with a mallet?

Picture 1

Both sides of the epoxy shows no bare cable. So i cant get a read at all. My research says that the red and or the black wire tends to break off inside there for whatever reason





"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Pic 1. So try continuity test on the two terminal if the connection is solid if the wires get wiggled.

Pic 2. Is there nothing under the rubber on the left? U can also check the wiring diagram if any 2 wires is a complete circuit. And test thanway
 
Jimsun said:
Pic 1. So try continuity test on the two terminal if the connection is solid if the wires get wiggled.

Pic 2. Is there nothing under the rubber on the left? U can also check the wiring diagram if any 2 wires is a complete circuit. And test thanway
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P1 i dont have access to the actual wire in either side.. I would have to splice it

P2 i can get in on the left side with a long ohm meter needle under the runnier.. But the real problem is the right side. Its a female end. And the holes are super small. I can maybe push a very thin copper wire thru


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
I see. Does pic one lead to the wire harness of pic2?
Use whatever conductive material you can use for diagnosing. However, don't break the contacts. lol. If pic one doens't lead to pic 2. then there must be a way out unless it's connected to a relay.
 
Jimsun said:
I see. Does pic one lead to the wire harness of pic2?
Use whatever conductive material you can use for diagnosing. However, don't break the contacts. lol. If pic one doens't lead to pic 2. then there must be a way out unless it's connected to a relay.
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Yes it leads to it

I am going to find a thin copper cable


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Okay just in case anybody is following this thread I have carved open to Epoxy to see in the fuel flange where the wires are connected and I found the the power wire is disconnected this is where the problem lies

I am going to solder this back on and I need to use some kind of epoxy or putty that is resistant to fuel to fill this back up

if anybody has any suggestions?

The wiring harness is about $180 online from USA. Plus the labor.

the whole unit is over $1000 so this is a handy fix for a Ducati owner if it works which it should because others have done it

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"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Canadian tire sells gas tank repair epoxy paste that should be workable

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Ok will try. I am 2 solders away from fixing this thing.. But i cant get in there to solder. Well i can but i cant get the solder to sit well


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Ok i dug out the epoxy. Soldered all the wires. Put new epoxy. Tested connections. I changed the fuel filter as well just because i was there anyways... Put the pump back in the tank.. Filled it up..

Turn the key, the pump primes.. So the original problem us fixed. There is power going to pump.. But the bike wont start.. It sounds like its not getting fuel.. Any ideas what could be going on?


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
I'm assuming you've cycled it a few times? Your fuel lines will probably be full of air and you have to get that out before you will have success.
 
Okay here is an update which may shed light.. I removed the hoses under the tank. When i unplug the out hose the hose (not the tank) started pissing out fuel.. For a good 2 minutes about a half gallon or so.. The gas coming from where the hose is connected to inside my bike


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
I think my tank emptied out in to the throttle bodies... lol ok tell me what i hooked up wrong


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
These hoses connected to the bottom of the fuel tank are the ones that are pissing out gas when i disconnected them.. Just the one on the bottom without the green tape. It was connected to the "out" connection on the bottom of the tank..


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"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Okay fuel pump problem is fixed !! everything running !!

Doing this myself, i saved a lot. The wire harness was $200 usd online plus labor or i could have gotten the whole new assembly for $1100 ! Lol

Anyways the fix cost me less then $20. And now i really know my way around the fuel pump assembly and everything inside the tank

If any duc owners need help with similar problem.. Dont hesitate to contact me.


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
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