RedDogDarren
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You may not be joking but you are wrong. The original SHO Taurus was a Yamaha design. This is the 3.5 liter Ecoboost engine designed in house by Ford and FEV Engineering.
I worked for Ford Canada for a time.
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Ok .. who was trying to outrun the OPP this morning?
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You may not be joking but you are wrong. The original SHO Taurus was a Yamaha design. This is the 3.5 liter Ecoboost engine designed in house by Ford and FEV Engineering.
I worked for Ford Canada for a time.
Tru dat .. i had a SHO with that engine. Damn fast, but damn expensive to repair.
kiwi
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Roomie
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This
My understanding was that all Ontario Police Departments exclusively ordered the twin-turbo charged engines. Apparently they REALLY REALLY needed that one.
professor
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NTARIO REGULATION 266/10*made under the*POLICE SERVICES ACT
SUSPECT APPREHENSION PURSUITS
Interpretation
1. (1) For the purposes of this Regulation, a suspect apprehension pursuit occurs when a*police officer*attempts to direct the driver of a motor vehicle to stop, the driver refuses to obey the officer and the officer pursues in a motor vehicle for the purpose of stopping the fleeing motor vehicle or identifying the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle.
(2) A suspect apprehension pursuit is discontinued when police officers are no longer pursuing a fleeing motor vehicle for the purpose of stopping the fleeing motor vehicle or identifying the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle.
Initiating or Continuing pursuit
2. (1) A*police officer*may pursue, or*continue*to pursue, a fleeing motor vehicle that fails to stop,
(a) if the*police officer*has reason to believe that a criminal offence has been committed or is about to be committed; or
(b) for the purposes of motor vehicle identification or the identification of an*individual*in the vehicle.
(2) Before initiating a suspect apprehension pursuit, a*police officer*shall determine that there are no*alternativesavailable*as set out in the written procedures of,
(a) the police force of the officer established under subsection 6 (1), if the officer is a member of an Ontario police force as defined in the*Interprovincial Policing Act, 2009;
(b) a police force whose local commander was notified of the appointment of the officer under subsection 6 (1) of theInterprovincial Policing Act, 2009, if the officer was appointed under Part II of that Act;
or
(c) the local police force of the local commander who appointed the officer under subsection 15 (1) of the*Interprovincial Policing Act, 2009, if the officer was appointed under Part III of that Act.
(3) A*police officer*shall, before initiating a suspect apprehension pursuit, determine whether in order to protect public safety the immediate need to apprehend an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle or the need to identify the fleeing motor vehicle or anindividual*in the fleeing motor vehicle outweighs*the risk*to public safety that may result from the pursuit.
(4) During a suspect apprehension pursuit, a*police officer*shall continually reassess the determination made under subsection (3) and shall discontinue the pursuit when*the risk*to public safety that may result from the pursuit outweighs*the risk*to public safety that may result if an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not immediately apprehended or if the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not identified.
(5) No*police officer*shall initiate a suspect apprehension pursuit for a non-criminal offence if the identity of an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is known.
(6) A*police officer*engaging in a suspect apprehension pursuit for a non-criminal offence shall discontinue the pursuit once the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is identified.
Notice of Pursuit
3. (1) A*police officer*shall notify a dispatcher when the officer initiates a suspect apprehension pursuit.
(2) The dispatcher shall notify a communications supervisor or road supervisor, if a supervisor is*available, that a suspect apprehension pursuit has been initiated.
Order to Discontinue Pursuit
4. (1) A communications or road supervisor shall order police officers to discontinue a suspect apprehension pursuit if, in his or her opinion,*the risk*to public safety that may result from the pursuit outweighs*the risk*to public safety that may result if anindividual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not immediately apprehended or if the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not identified.
(2) A*police officer*who receives an order under subsection (1) shall obey the order even if the officer is not a member of the police force of the communications or road supervisor who made the order.
Any after all this it comes down to an ego thing. Unless their higher ups as noted above call it off, they are going to try and play hero.
Only advantage to a bike if you are doing this is they can pit you or any physical force. Nor can they use the strips. Best bet is to get a plate and see you at home later
SUSPECT APPREHENSION PURSUITS
Interpretation
1. (1) For the purposes of this Regulation, a suspect apprehension pursuit occurs when a*police officer*attempts to direct the driver of a motor vehicle to stop, the driver refuses to obey the officer and the officer pursues in a motor vehicle for the purpose of stopping the fleeing motor vehicle or identifying the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle.
(2) A suspect apprehension pursuit is discontinued when police officers are no longer pursuing a fleeing motor vehicle for the purpose of stopping the fleeing motor vehicle or identifying the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle.
Initiating or Continuing pursuit
2. (1) A*police officer*may pursue, or*continue*to pursue, a fleeing motor vehicle that fails to stop,
(a) if the*police officer*has reason to believe that a criminal offence has been committed or is about to be committed; or
(b) for the purposes of motor vehicle identification or the identification of an*individual*in the vehicle.
(2) Before initiating a suspect apprehension pursuit, a*police officer*shall determine that there are no*alternativesavailable*as set out in the written procedures of,
(a) the police force of the officer established under subsection 6 (1), if the officer is a member of an Ontario police force as defined in the*Interprovincial Policing Act, 2009;
(b) a police force whose local commander was notified of the appointment of the officer under subsection 6 (1) of theInterprovincial Policing Act, 2009, if the officer was appointed under Part II of that Act;
or
(c) the local police force of the local commander who appointed the officer under subsection 15 (1) of the*Interprovincial Policing Act, 2009, if the officer was appointed under Part III of that Act.
(3) A*police officer*shall, before initiating a suspect apprehension pursuit, determine whether in order to protect public safety the immediate need to apprehend an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle or the need to identify the fleeing motor vehicle or anindividual*in the fleeing motor vehicle outweighs*the risk*to public safety that may result from the pursuit.
(4) During a suspect apprehension pursuit, a*police officer*shall continually reassess the determination made under subsection (3) and shall discontinue the pursuit when*the risk*to public safety that may result from the pursuit outweighs*the risk*to public safety that may result if an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not immediately apprehended or if the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not identified.
(5) No*police officer*shall initiate a suspect apprehension pursuit for a non-criminal offence if the identity of an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is known.
(6) A*police officer*engaging in a suspect apprehension pursuit for a non-criminal offence shall discontinue the pursuit once the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is identified.
Notice of Pursuit
3. (1) A*police officer*shall notify a dispatcher when the officer initiates a suspect apprehension pursuit.
(2) The dispatcher shall notify a communications supervisor or road supervisor, if a supervisor is*available, that a suspect apprehension pursuit has been initiated.
Order to Discontinue Pursuit
4. (1) A communications or road supervisor shall order police officers to discontinue a suspect apprehension pursuit if, in his or her opinion,*the risk*to public safety that may result from the pursuit outweighs*the risk*to public safety that may result if anindividual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not immediately apprehended or if the fleeing motor vehicle or an*individual*in the fleeing motor vehicle is not identified.
(2) A*police officer*who receives an order under subsection (1) shall obey the order even if the officer is not a member of the police force of the communications or road supervisor who made the order.
Any after all this it comes down to an ego thing. Unless their higher ups as noted above call it off, they are going to try and play hero.
Only advantage to a bike if you are doing this is they can pit you or any physical force. Nor can they use the strips. Best bet is to get a plate and see you at home later
muay_thai_dan
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A lot of guys ride without insurance. These guys run.
Also as someone mentioned, 1000cc will do 160km/h in first gear (depending on gearing etc)... 140-150km/h in first is more realistic lets say. by the time the helicopters and radios go off the bike is gone....
I saw that too. I don't know how it's possible to sit at the side of the Road running radar or investigate domestic disputes with anything less than 400hp. And police departments say they can't do anything to save money. :/
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Technically fast bikes could outrun the helicopter (and plane) , but traffic/corners allows the chopper to catch up.
conundrum
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I have, and even my CBR650F can do 90-100km/h in first, but that doesn't mean I'd run. I just liken the whole running thing to chancing a get-away vs much larger charges. If you were doing 160 when it up I do understand the reasoning, but if you were doing 20 or so over in a straight line, there isn't much else they could hit you with than a minor speeding ticket (and if they did, things would likely get thrown out in court).
Arguably the whole running thing just baffles me 9 times out of 10, as I liken to it shooting someone in a robbery gone bad...sure if you get caught now you're a murder...but hey, no witnesses.
Anyhow just my 2 cents, which often differs from popular views on GTAM on topics like these.
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muay_thai_dan
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True.
if your 650 hits those speeds in first then ur cleared to run from the cops and helicopters too
!jk. I agree with you that running makes little logical sense for the law abiding rider who is insured etc etc, and especially for some speeding ticket (within reason). But if you think of the guys with bad drivers abstracts, and those who are riding without insurance, they are much much more likely to run. Also, if you tihink of the guys who get caught doing excessive speeding, or popping a wheelie, etc, they would prob consider running too cuz getting stopped could mean no more riding...
0-60 in 6.2 seconds vs your average sport bike doing 3 seconds
Don't forget line of sight for the helicopter...the further the bike gets ahead...the higher the chopper will go so he maintains line of sight (as he is on radio to ground units)! EASY BUST!!!
That engine was straight up porn. For those that don't know, this is late 80's...
silverbullet132
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[video=youtube;durm775TZmo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=durm775TZmo[/video]
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